Hi,
I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution,
so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option.
The text I'm thinking about is currently this:
| The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are
| not working withing established
also sprach Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.10.28.0921 +0100]:
| We thank Joerg Jaspert for exploring ideas on how to involve
| contributors more closely with the project so that they can get both
| recognition and the necessary tools to do their work.
The problem I have with this is
Hi,
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 09:21, Peter Palfrader wrote:
I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution,
so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option.
Good call.
The text I'm thinking about is currently this:
[..]
This is not a call for seconds
I have a problem with this part:
| We invite the DAM to further develop his ideas
| in close coordination with other members of the project, and to present
| a new and improved proposal on the project's mailinglists in the future,
| at least two weeks prior to any planned implementation.
Hi
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:21:57AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
Hi,
I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution,
so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option.
Thank you for proposing this option. I really like it's constructive tone.
The
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
| We realize that the proposal posted to the debian-devel-announce
| mailinglist is not yet finalized and may not have the support of a large
| part of our community. We
Le Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:21:57AM +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit :
I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution,
so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option.
The text I'm thinking about is currently this:
| The Debian Project recognizes that
Le mardi 28 octobre 2008 à 20:38 +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit :
So either we, the project, a) work with them and try to convince them of
the merits of alternate proposals, or b) we could force a system they
aren't convinced of upon them using a GR - probably not something that
will work very
On 25/10/08 at 10:10 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Hi all,
I have integrated the changes suggested by Frans, Robert, and aspell
(wdiff attached).
Here is the amended proposal:
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- Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the
Le Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:42:08AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
I fear that this GR will look like vote yes if you don't want change.
I'm personally fine with changes to the membership process. But I want
them to be decided after an healthy, public, discussion, and probably
also a vote
On 11551 March 1977, Charles Plessy wrote:
I would be more than happy if a discussion between the different poles of
opinions would start, with focus on convergence.
This GR effectively blocks any [motivation to have a] discussion.
--
bye, Joerg
A.D. 1492:
Christopher Columbus arrives in
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 03:30:02PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
On 11551 March 1977, Charles Plessy wrote:
I would be more than happy if a discussion between the different poles of
opinions would start, with focus on convergence.
This GR effectively blocks any [motivation to have a]
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:42:08AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Should we add something to the GR to address this problem? Or simply
explain the reasoning behind the GR by different means, during the vote?
I think it's perfectly reasonable to explain our respective POVs separately
(and in
also sprach Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.10.25.0310 +0200]:
The Debian Project, by way of a general resolution of its developers, decides:
The changes announced the 22nd of October on the debian-devel-announce
mailing list (Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) are
suspended
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 05:13:22PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.10.25.0310 +0200]:
The Debian Project, by way of a general resolution of its developers,
decides:
The changes announced the 22nd of October on the debian-devel-announce
snip
- Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the
debian-devel-announce
mailing list (Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) about Developer
Status;
- Given the importance of defining how the Project accepts new members;
- Because of the strong opposition to the method
Sorry, I can't reply to the original mail itself, I hope this suffices.
Frans Pop wrote:
snip
- Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the
debian-devel-announce
mailing list (Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) about Developer
Status;
- Given the importance of
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Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the
debian-devel-announce
mailing list (Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) about Developer
Status;
- Given the importance of defining how the
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:10:55AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
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- Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the
debian-devel-announce
mailing list (Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) about Developer
Status;
- Given the
Hi Charles!
You wrote:
- Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the
debian-devel-announce
mailing list (Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) about Developer
Status;
- Given the importance of defining how the Project accepts new members;
- Because of the strong
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Dear all,
Joerg Jaspert answered to my questions and some others on his blog, but the
informations that I think we need are still not provided.
- It is not known whether the Secretary, the Project leader and his delegates
for the system
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 09:15:43PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
The Debian Project, by the way of a general resolution of its developpers,
decides:
- The changes announced the 22nd of October on the debian-devel-announce
mailing list (Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) are suspended.
It
Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, maybe you want. This would make it impossible to change the
membership procedures without an GR.
I don't think so. I think that would require (temporarily) amending
the constitution, as it would (temporarily) remove the authority
defined there.
--
Le Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:36:22PM +0200, Bastian Blank a écrit :
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 09:15:43PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
The Debian Project, by the way of a general resolution of its developpers,
decides:
- The changes announced the 22nd of October on the debian-devel-announce
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:49:31PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
takes immediately effect until a procedural vote decides if the supsension
Typo ^
--
Robert Millan
The DRM opt-in fallacy: Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
how) you may access your data; but nobody's
On 24/10/08 at 23:49 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
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- Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the
debian-devel-announce
mailing list (Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) about Developer
Status;
- Given the importance of
I would second this proposal for basically the same reasons as Lucas, but
there is one sentence I think needs to be improved.
Charles Plessy wrote:
In accordance to the paragraph 4.2.2 of the constition, this
suspension takes immediately effect until a procedural vote decides if
the
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 08:43, Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to add that I'm not opposed to changes in our membership
policy. But those changes could fundamentally change our project, and I
believe that it's important that there's a lot of discussion about it,
There have
Le Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 08:27:40PM +0200, Frans Pop a écrit :
Charles Plessy wrote:
In accordance to the paragraph 4.2.2 of the constition, this
suspension takes immediately effect until a procedural vote decides if
the supsension is lifted until the vote of this general resolution.
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