On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 07:46:19AM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> Chris, thank you for your service! Two terms as DPL is a serious
> contribution
> and commitment to Debian, and I greatly appreciate it!
indeed. Chris, many thanks for all your DPL work in the last two years.
IMO you were truely
On 3/14/19 12:43 PM, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
> On 2019/03/14 13:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> Soo, lets ensure we do not have another week:
>>
>> I hereby nominate myself for the DPL election 2019.
>
> I have been considering that too, and have been planning to submit my
> self-nomination as late
Joerg Jaspert writes:
> I hereby nominate myself for the DPL election 2019.
Jonathan Carter writes:
> I hereby nominate myself for the 2019 DPL election.
Whether our constitution requires a second or not, I'm grateful to people
putting themselves up for the DPL role.
So, I hereby second the
On 2019-03-14 00:05:16, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Disclaimer: I was the DPL between 2013 and 2015. My recollection of that
> time might not be entirely correct, and Debian might have changed quite
> a bit since then. I must admit that I haven't followed Debian closely
> enough to know some
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 12:34:02PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> I hereby nominate myself for the DPL election 2019.
I ack that this is valid.
Kurt
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:43:04PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> I hereby nominate myself for the 2019 DPL election.
I ack that this is valid.
Kurt
Hi
On 3/14/19 8:43 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
> On 2019/03/14 13:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> Soo, lets ensure we do not have another week:
>>
>> I hereby nominate myself for the DPL election 2019.
>
> I hereby nominate myself for the 2019 DPL election.
Thanks you both!!
Regards!
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:43:04PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> On 2019/03/14 13:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > I hereby nominate myself for the DPL election 2019.
>
> I hereby nominate myself for the 2019 DPL election.
Mwahahaha, so we managed to guilt-trip you two into stepping forward, so
On 14/03/19 at 16:00 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:24:58AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > So, thinking a bit more about that, and using
> > https://www.debian.org/intro/organization.en.html as a basis, a split
> > that could maybe work is:
> Can it work without a
On 2019/03/14 13:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Soo, lets ensure we do not have another week:
>
> I hereby nominate myself for the DPL election 2019.
I have been considering that too, and have been planning to submit my
self-nomination as late as possible to give me enough chance to chicken out.
On 15337 March 1977, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
Since there were no candidates during the nomination period, the
nomination period has been extended by 1 week.
Soo, lets ensure we do not have another week:
I hereby nominate myself for the DPL election 2019.
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bye, Joerg
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum writes:
>
> > - it's a position where you are often alone, and lack feedback
>
> This is true in the limit, but I, and a number of other former DPLs,
> have often made ourselves available to the acting DPL to act as a
> "sounding board".
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:24:58AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> So, thinking a bit more about that, and using
> https://www.debian.org/intro/organization.en.html as a basis, a split
> that could maybe work is:
Can it work without a GR?
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On Thu, 2019-03-14 at 09:36 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> The second one (which requires more work on the Debian side) is to do
> our own double-accounting, track all expenses, and track how they are
> taken into account by TOs.
As far as I have seen Debian expenses, the Debian treasurers are
Hello,
Missatge de Martin Michlmayr del dia dj., 14 de març
2019 a les 5:26:
> * Lucas Nussbaum [2019-03-14 00:05]:
> > Also, from the DPL POV, it would be very useful to have an annual
> > report on Debian finances. I don't know if this exists nowadays.
> It doesn't. I wanted to do
On 14/03/19 at 00:05 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> What could work is a group of people that are elected together, agree
> beforehand on how to share the various areas of responsibility, and
> synchronize very frequently to align their views. But it's probably hard
> to be efficient in the
On 14/03/19 at 00:01 -0700, Jose Miguel Parrella wrote:
> lucas wrote:
> > What could work is a group of people that are elected together, agree
> > beforehand on how to share the various areas of responsibility, and
> > synchronize very frequently to align their views. But it's probably hard
> >
On 13/03/19 at 21:04 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> How much of the DPL's financial role can be delegated?
> I understand that for example absent instructions otherwise the DPL is
> our expendature approval point for SPI (and presumably the other trusted
> organizations).
>
> Would the governing
On 14/03/19 at 12:21 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:05 AM Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> > Also, from the DPL POV, it would be very useful to have an annual
> > report on Debian finances. I don't know if this exists nowadays.
>
> Some of the TOs have annual reports, the SPI one
lucas wrote:
> What could work is a group of people that are elected together, agree
> beforehand on how to share the various areas of responsibility, and
> synchronize very frequently to align their views. But it's probably hard
> to be efficient in the typical Debian setup, and to determine a
* Lucas Nussbaum [2019-03-14 00:05]:
> Also, from the DPL POV, it would be very useful to have an annual
> report on Debian finances. I don't know if this exists nowadays.
It doesn't. I wanted to do something like that a few years ago but it
wasn't possible because we couldn't get the needed
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:05 AM Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Responsibility #4: "Debian Monthly News"
>
> Over time, the DPL somehow has grown the responsibility of distributing
> news that are sometimes very loosely related to the DPL role. That's
> probably
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:05 AM Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Also, from the DPL POV, it would be very useful to have an annual
> report on Debian finances. I don't know if this exists nowadays.
Some of the TOs have annual reports, the SPI one includes some details
of Debian & DebConf money at SPI,
Sam Hartman writes:
> How much of the DPL's financial role can be delegated?
Unclear.
> Would the governing procedures/bilaws/whatever of our trusted
> organizations permit a DPL to delegate some or all of this?
I think so.
However, I suspect this would not feel like a significant reduction
Lucas Nussbaum writes:
> - it's a position where you are often alone, and lack feedback
This is true in the limit, but I, and a number of other former DPLs,
have often made ourselves available to the acting DPL to act as a
"sounding board". In fact, I think I've personally provided advice and
How much of the DPL's financial role can be delegated?
I understand that for example absent instructions otherwise the DPL is
our expendature approval point for SPI (and presumably the other trusted
organizations).
Would the governing procedures/bilaws/whatever of our trusted
organizations permit
Hi,
Disclaimer: I was the DPL between 2013 and 2015. My recollection of that
time might not be entirely correct, and Debian might have changed quite
a bit since then. I must admit that I haven't followed Debian closely
enough to know some details!
(And I hope that other former DPLs will post
On 2019-03-13 15:13:33, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> (Dropping Chris from CC: as he is subscribed to -vote)
>
> On 2019-03-12 16:55, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
> >
> > Mehdi, would you like to run again?
> > I saw you run in 2017 and you have experience as DPL.
> >
>
> I am really not sure
(Dropping Chris from CC: as he is subscribed to -vote)
On 2019-03-12 16:55, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
Mehdi, would you like to run again?
I saw you run in 2017 and you have experience as DPL.
I am really not sure what people are expecting from the DPL. My past
experience showed
Daniel Kahn Gillmor writes:
> Not to pile on, but i wonder whether Lamby's diligence, and his clear
> documentation of the workload (via Bits from the DPL at least) hasn't
> scared off some prospective candidates, who might now be realizing that
> they don't have the bandwidth to handle all of
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On 2019/03/12 18:22, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
>> +1. Thank you so much for everything you've done for Debian over the past
>> two years!
>
> Not to pile on, but i wonder whether Lamby's diligence, and his clear
> documentation of the workload
On Tue 2019-03-12 08:45:46 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bdale Garbee writes:
>
>> Chris, thank you for your service! Two terms as DPL is a serious
>> contribution and commitment to Debian, and I greatly appreciate it!
>
> +1. Thank you so much for everything you've done for Debian over the past
Hi,
On 3/12/19 6:26 AM, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Dear Developers,
>
> Whilst it would have been clear to any serious potential candidate
> already, for the sake of clarity I will not be looking to extend my
> term in this year's DPL elections.
Thank you. I believe it was import you clarify that.
Bdale Garbee writes:
> Chris, thank you for your service! Two terms as DPL is a serious
> contribution and commitment to Debian, and I greatly appreciate it!
+1. Thank you so much for everything you've done for Debian over the past
two years!
--
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)
Chris, thank you for your service! Two terms as DPL is a serious contribution
and commitment to Debian, and I greatly appreciate it!
Bdale
On March 12, 2019 3:26:26 AM MDT, Chris Lamb wrote:
>Dear Developers,
>
>> Since there were no candidates during the nomination period, the
>> nomination
Dear Developers,
> Since there were no candidates during the nomination period, the
> nomination period has been extended by 1 week.
Whilst it would have been clear to any serious potential candidate
already, for the sake of clarity I will not be looking to extend my
term in this year's DPL
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:47:52AM +0100, Daniel wrote:
> On 10/03/2019 11:37, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:20:03AM +0100, Daniel wrote:
> >> On 10/03/2019 04:44, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >>> This is an obviously untrue signature.
> >> Why do you want to taint the
On 15337 March 1977, Zlatan Todorić wrote:
So, funny, maybe we will live to our long history of community
fostering (which is the thing I most enjoy from Debian, besides that
we produce kickass OS) and be leaderless as we in all nature of
project actually are.
While the idea of going
/usr/bin/dpl \
--mode supervised-learning \
--training-input debian-de...@lists.debian.org \
--training-input debian-proj...@lists.debian.org \
--training-input debian-vote@lists.debian.org \
--authorized-peers /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg \
--authorized-peers
Hi all,
On 10.03.19 18:48, Zlatan Todorić wrote:
maybe we will live to our long history of community fostering (which is
the thing I most enjoy from Debian, besides that we produce kickass OS)
and be leaderless as we in all nature of project actually are.
If this ("leaderless as we in all
(sorry for top posting)
So, funny, maybe we will live to our long history of community fostering (which
is the thing I most enjoy from Debian, besides that we produce kickass OS) and
be leaderless as we in all nature of project actually are.
Doesn't sound too bad to me,
Z
;)
On March 10,
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 01:48:23PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 15337 March 1977, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
> > In fairness, I'd recommend that the nominations period be extended for
> > some explicit time. I think that we want to have a known window for new
> > nominations rather than say
Hi,
Since there were no candidates during the nomination period, the
nomination period has been extended by 1 week.
The new time line looks like:
| Period | Start | End |
|+---+-|
| Nomination | Sunday 2019-03-03 |
On 15337 March 1977, Sam Hartman wrote:
In fairness, I'd recommend that the nominations period be extended for
some explicit time. I think that we want to have a known window for new
nominations rather than say starting the campaigning as soon as someone
nominates themselves.
§5.2.4 to the
We seem to have reached the end of the nominations period with no Debian
developers stepping forward to nominate themselves. As has been
discussed, the nomination in
is not
valid because the person nominating themselves is not a developer.
In fairness, I'd recommend that the nominations period
On 10/03/2019 04:44, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> This is an obviously untrue signature.
>
Why do you want to taint the elections with more bullying, insulting and
disrespectful comments?
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 12:56:00AM +0100, Daniel wrote:
> On 03/03/2019 01:17, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > Please make sure that nominations are sent to (or cc:'d to)
> > debian-vote, and are cryptographically signed.
> A lot of people contacted me encouraging me to run
On 03/03/2019 01:17, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> Please make sure that nominations are sent to (or cc:'d to)
> debian-vote, and are cryptographically signed.
>
A lot of people contacted me encouraging me to run for DPL as a way to
help Debian out of the current cultural
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Hi,
According to the constitution (5.2. Appointment), project
leader elections should begin "six weeks before the leadership
post becomes vacant, or (if it is too late already) immediately."
The new project leader term starts on 2019-04-17. The time line
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