Le Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 02:08:29PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit :
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 00:35 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
3) Is there a benefit of allowing non-free files to be distributed together
with the source of the Debian system ?
Have you considered the harm? It means that
Hello again everybody,
I did not have much time recently, so here is a summary email that tries to
answer in a single message all comments that I received in public or private.
1) About the exhaustive reproduction of all copyright notices.
I have the feeling that there is a consensus that we
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 00:35 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
3) Is there a benefit of allowing non-free files to be distributed together
with the source of the Debian system ?
Have you considered the harm? It means that users can no longer assume
that whatever is in the source packages can be
Hi,
On 24/01/10 15:47, Charles Plessy wrote:
The Debian binary packages contain an exhaustive summary of the licenses of the
files it contains. This summary also contains a reproduction of the copyright
notices when the license require it. Additional documentation is encouraged but
not
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:47:41PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
2) The non-free files that we remove from the upstream sources.
Since you are a DD, I suppose you have read the social contract. What is
its first item ? Ah, yes ! Debian will remain 100% free.
Are you suggesting a GR to change our
On Mo, Jan 25, 2010 at 08:28:01 (CET), Luk Claes wrote:
Yes, exactly. In this draft GR I propose to ignore some DFSG-non-free
files, which includes sourceless files. Our social contract only
stipulates that the Debian sytstem must be DFSG-free. We already have
a non-free section for the
Hi Charles,
On Montag, 25. Januar 2010, Charles Plessy wrote:
In other words, just blatently ignore the bit of the DFSG that says
that programs must include source. Well, that explains it :-/
Yes, exactly.
Thanks for clarifying.
cheers,
Holger
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:
2) The non-free files that we remove from the upstream sources.
Is mailing upstreams or writing debian/rules get-orig-source really so
problematic that you feel this is needed? The former is usually very
little work (and
Dear all,
a significant part of the time dedicated to make and update Debian packages is
spent in making an exhaustive inventory of the copyright attributions of the
distributed work, and to clean the upstream original sources from files that
have no impact on the binary packages we distribute.
Please sign your message if you want to propose a GR.
Kurt
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On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:47:41PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Dear all,
a significant part of the time dedicated to make and update Debian packages is
spent in making an exhaustive inventory of the copyright attributions of the
distributed work, and to clean the upstream original sources
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes:
I'm not saying I agree or disagree, but does this really really really
need a GR?
If it could be arranged, a way to avoid the GR would be to have the
ftpmasters publicly express (ideally in this discussion thread) their
position in agreement with one
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
[...] my personal conclusion that this time could be
better spent for other efforts. I therefore propose to make these
practices optional. Since it is a major change in our traditions, I propose
to make a GR to make sure that there is a consensus.
As will
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
Le Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:56:36PM +, MJ Ray a écrit :
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
According to our social contract, “We promise that the Debian system and
all
its components will be free according to [the DFSG].” [...]
Wow, that's a
Le Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:42:07AM +, MJ Ray a écrit :
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
H Le Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:56:36PM +, MJ Ray a écrit :
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
According to our social contract, “We promise that the Debian system
and all
its components
Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:42:07AM +, MJ Ray a écrit :
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
H Le Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:56:36PM +, MJ Ray a écrit :
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
According to our social contract, “We promise that the Debian system and
all
its
Le Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 08:28:01AM +0100, Luk Claes a écrit :
And who in their right mind do you expect to vote for ignoring DFSG
non-freeness, people that want to leave the project?
For the record, I will not answer in this thread to other posts that are
insulting, question people's mental
Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 08:28:01AM +0100, Luk Claes a écrit :
And who in their right mind do you expect to vote for ignoring DFSG
non-freeness, people that want to leave the project?
For the record, I will not answer in this thread to other posts that are
insulting,
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