Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:52:36 +0200, Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This I consider silly. Thinking that the shorter voting period might have influenced participation somehow skews the vote for the DPL? Dow sending the CFV 24 minutes after the hour also skew the votes? Or sending the CFV

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Jurij Smakov [Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:49:22 +0100]: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: Yes, shortening the voting period has been such a *fun* experiment. I think that using official project announcements as a medium to express your personal

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! Am 14.4.2008 schrieb Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, shortening the voting period has been such a *fun* experiment. I, too, think that the quoted sentence above from Manoj is just plain inappropriate in a message sent with the Secreatary hat on. I agree on that. Yours

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Monday 14 April 2008 12:54, Alexander Schmehl wrote: I, too, think that the quoted sentence above from Manoj is just plain inappropriate in a message sent with the Secreatary hat on. I agree on that. Another meme! Me too! Manoj, I am also and still very thankful for all your secretary

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:13:52PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: On Monday 14 April 2008 12:54, Alexander Schmehl wrote: I, too, think that the quoted sentence above from Manoj is just plain inappropriate in a message sent with the Secreatary hat on. I agree on that. Another meme! Me too!

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:12:52 +0200, Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:13:52PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: On Monday 14 April 2008 12:54, Alexander Schmehl wrote: Am 14.4.2008 schrieb Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Jurij Smakov [Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:49:22

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Joey Hess
Adeodato Simó wrote: I, too, think that the quoted sentence above from Manoj is just plain inappropriate in a message sent with the Secreatary hat on. I personally, don't belive in this hat concept that seems to have infested the project. When I write a mail, *I* am writing the mail, it doesn't

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Joey Hess wrote: Adeodato Simó wrote: I, too, think that the quoted sentence above from Manoj is just plain inappropriate in a message sent with the Secreatary hat on. I personally, don't belive in this hat concept that seems to have infested the project. When I write a mail, *I* am writing

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:58:34PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: You can express your opinions on this list without any problem, though your opinion should not be expressed in an official reminder to vote as that can be interpreted as influencing the vote. I wouldn't go so far, it's not really

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Joey Hess
Luk Claes wrote: Everything that is sent as [EMAIL PROTECTED] is seen as official posts from the project just like things sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] only in different capacities... Some DPLs have found it useful to use the DPL email alias to lend more importance to what they're saying, or

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Simon Huggins
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 09:39:11AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I do not consider that remark a mistake; I do not consider it inappropriate, and I do not believe that officers are supposed to be robotically bland even in their official comments. The comment was made about a

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:50:02 +0200, Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I guess I also should send some personal opinions about some packages (or maybe even maintainers) in the Bits from the Release Team... Please. It might make it a more interesting read. I hate the corporate press

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:47:13 +0100, Simon Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 09:39:11AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I do not consider that remark a mistake; I do not consider it inappropriate, and I do not believe that officers are supposed to be robotically bland

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: The last time we had such a low turn out was in 2001, and then we only had less than one third the number of developers. Yes, shortening the voting period has been such a *fun* experiment. I think that using

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:49:22 +0100, Jurij Smakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: The last time we had such a low turn out was in 2001, and then we only had less than one third the number of developers. Yes, shortening the

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Luk Claes
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:49:22 +0100, Jurij Smakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: The last time we had such a low turn out was in 2001, and then we only had less than one third the number of developers.

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 02:56:04PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:49:22 +0100, Jurij Smakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: The last time we had such a low turn out was in 2001, and then we only

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:58:34 +0200, Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You can express your opinions on this list without any problem, though your opinion should not be expressed in an official reminder to vote Why not? I hold these opinions about the processes I am following as a

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:25:19 +0100, Jurij Smakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: When you send an email with From set to Debian Project Secretary, you are supposed to cater to the opinion of the community, which was No, I am not. The opinions of the community have little to do with the

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 04:45:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: If ever I were to even consider basing my actions on your judgement, I will take this under advisement. I have never been one for a robotic secretary. Indeed, every CFV past the first one has some commentary on how

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:14:06 +0100, Jurij Smakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 04:45:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: If ever I were to even consider basing my actions on your judgement, I will take this under advisement. I have never been one for a robotic secretary.

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Luk Claes
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:58:34 +0200, Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You can express your opinions on this list without any problem, though your opinion should not be expressed in an official reminder to vote Why not? I hold these opinions about the

Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-10 Thread Debian Project Secretary
it to the wrong address, or have problems with their MUA mangling the ballot; leave it too late and you shall not have time to correct the error. So, if you have not yet voted, go vote. manoj FINAL CALL FOR VOTES FOR THE DEBIAN PROJECT LEADER ELECTION 2008