Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 05:51:45PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an > off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering"): > > Having given this some more thought, I believe I've come to understand > > why you don't see this to be such

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:41:39PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > If you're referring to the casting vote exception in the proposal, you > urgently need to reread §5.1.7 of the constitution: the DPL has a > casting vote for GRs! Actually, you were referring to sections (iv) and (v) of the

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: >> Do we throw said change away? We probably can't, because it's >> still a non-binding resolution, or something. Ian> In these cases, my proposal produces `FD'. >> Put otherwise, the idea of a "non-binding

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Hi Ian, Having given this some more thought, I believe I've come to understand why you don't see this to be such a crazy idea as I believe it is. On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 12:20:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one > error and

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering"): > Having given this some more thought, I believe I've come to understand > why you don't see this to be such a crazy idea as I believe it is. ... > This works for votes where

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Hi Ian, On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 12:20:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > The intent of this change is that if the Condorcet(CSSD) winner does > not meet the supermajority requirement, it is still the winning > outcome of the whole vote, but only as a non-binding statement of > opinion. > > So for

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 07:32:34PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Kurt Roeckx (k...@roeckx.be) [150829 16:03]: > > (Or I might be totally confused about the effects of all the > > changes you're doing. Those are all non-obvious changes that seem > > to change more than the things you want to

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

* Didier 'OdyX' Raboud (o...@debian.org) [150901 13:52]: > It'd be good if you (as well as Andreas, as GR proposer) could comment > on the full series of commits in that repository, to make sure we all > agree on a constitution diff. Up to now

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

* Kurt Roeckx (k...@roeckx.be) [150829 16:03]: > (Or I might be totally confused about the effects of all the > changes you're doing. Those are all non-obvious changes that seem > to change more than the things you want to fix.) IMHO your questions should be answered by others already, plus the

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Le mardi, 1 septembre 2015, 12.20:05 Ian Jackson a écrit : > Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off- by-one error and duplicate section numbering"): > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:12:41PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > >(i) Delete most of A.6(3) (which implemented

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering"): > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:12:41PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > >(i) Delete most of A.6(3) (which implemented the supermajority > >by dropping options at an early stage).

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes ("Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering"): > Le mardi, 1 septembre 2015, 12.20:05 Ian Jackson a écrit : > > I think I intended that this should read A.6(4)(0). > > ^^^ > >

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

On Wednesday 26 August 2015 15:18:36 Russ Allbery wrote: > I second the below text, for both changes. FWIW, at least on my mail client I'm failing to verify this signature. Not that is *that* important considering the number of seconds already available, but I thought it was better to make it

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 05:30:38PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > On Wednesday 26 August 2015 15:18:36 Russ Allbery wrote: > > I second the below text, for both changes. > > FWIW, at least on my mail client I'm failing to verify this signature. > Not that is *that* important

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer writes: > On Wednesday 26 August 2015 15:18:36 Russ Allbery wrote: >> I second the below text, for both changes. > FWIW, at least on my mail client I'm failing to verify this signature. > Not that is *that* important considering the

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:12:41PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: (i) Delete most of A.6(3) (which implemented the supermajority by dropping options at an early stage). Specifically: - Move A.6(3)(1) (the definition of V(A,B)) to a new subparagraph A.6(3)(0) before A.6(3)(1).

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Andreas Barth a...@ayous.org writes: Constitutional Amendment: TC Supermajority Fix Seconded. Bdale signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:12:41PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: Hi together, we (as the Technical Committee) have encountered two bugs in the constitution which we like to fix. For this reason, I propose the following General Resolution to change the constitution. So I see 5 seconds, so the

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Le jeudi, 27 août 2015, 10.04:50 Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:12:41PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: we (as the Technical Committee) have encountered two bugs in the constitution which we like to fix. For this reason, I propose the following General Resolution to

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

I second both parts of the GR below. Andreas Barth a...@ayous.org writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi together, we (as the Technical Committee) have encountered two bugs in the constitution which we like to fix. For this reason, I propose the following General

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 26/08/15 21:12, Andreas Barth wrote: - GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS - Constitutional Amendment: TC Supermajority Fix Prior to the Clone Proof SSD GR in June 2003, the Technical Committee could overrule a Developer with a

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:12:41PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: we (as the Technical Committee) have encountered two bugs in the constitution which we like to fix. For this reason, I propose the following General Resolution to change the constitution. Can we have a diff and a word-diff please?

GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi together, we (as the Technical Committee) have encountered two bugs in the constitution which we like to fix. For this reason, I propose the following General Resolution to change the constitution. Please note that we put both issues into one GR

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

I second the below text, for both changes. Andreas Barth a...@ayous.org writes: - GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS - Constitutional Amendment: TC Supermajority Fix Prior to the Clone Proof SSD GR in June 2003, the Technical Committee could overrule a Developer with a

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

Le mercredi, 26 août 2015, 22.12:41 Andreas Barth a écrit : - GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS - Constitutional Amendment: TC Supermajority Fix Prior to the Clone Proof SSD GR in June 2003, the Technical Committee could overrule a Developer with a supermajority of 3:1.

Re: GR: Constitutional Amendment to fix an off-by-one error and duplicate section numbering

also sprach Andreas Barth a...@ayous.org [2015-08-26 22:12 +0200]: we (as the Technical Committee) have encountered two bugs in the constitution which we like to fix. For this reason, I propose the following General Resolution to change the constitution. Seconded. -- .''`. martin f.