Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-21 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 20 octobre 2014, 12.17:14 Neil McGovern a écrit : Ian's: make each package support all alternative init systems This is actively misleading in a least four ways: Yup, I wouldn't count that as neutral either. How about: Your two proposals don't seem to match Ian's to which

Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-21 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:14:44AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le lundi, 20 octobre 2014, 12.17:14 Neil McGovern a écrit : Ian's: make each package support all alternative init systems This is actively misleading in a least four ways: Yup, I wouldn't count that as neutral

Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Neil McGovern writes (Re: GR option text on ballots): On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 03:18:52PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: I would be very displeased if the Secretary chooses to use a text for my proposal which was suggested by my opponent, and which I think contains coded criticisms of my proposal

Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Nikolaus Rath writes (Re: GR option text on ballots): Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: If the Secretary feels we have to have a neutral rather than a positive phrasing I would request that we use the following summary line for my proposal: Packages may not require

Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-20 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 03:18:52PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: IMO summary lines should certainly not be written by opponents of the proposed option. Please would you as Secretary confirm that you will seek to use a summary text that both I (as proponent) and you are happy with. Please see

Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 03:18:52PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Lucas Nussbaum writes (Re: GR option text on ballots): I'd like to propose: I would like to reiterate my view that these summaries should be positive, and written by the proponent of each version, so long

Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Lucas Nussbaum writes (Re: GR option text on ballots): I'd like to propose: I would like to reiterate my view that these summaries should be positive, and written by the proponent of each version, so long as they are not misleading. IMO summary lines should certainly not be written by opponents

Re: GR option text on ballots

2014-10-19 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: If the Secretary feels we have to have a neutral rather than a positive phrasing I would request that we use the following summary line for my proposal: Packages may not require a specific init system Why not s/a/one/ as in your