Hi Louis-Philippe
On 2022/06/19 01:43, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
This is a proposal for Debian to create a guideline for our TOs when
they receive donations of non-fiat assets.
It is a result of the constructive debate we had on debian-private, and
hopefully it will not be too divisive
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 02:31:12PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> I don't see GRs as "adversarial" or "a last resort to put a nail in the
> coffin of a divisive debate", but as a great tool we have to take
> collective decisions. I think we can have "nice" GRs without obvious
>
On 2022-06-20 20:31, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> I don't see GRs as "adversarial" or "a last resort to put a nail in the
> coffin of a divisive debate", but as a great tool we have to take
> collective decisions.
I find it difficult to not see a GR as adversarial when deciding things
on a
On 2022-06-20 11 h 16, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> I have a similar thinking. In particular, Debian has a treasurer team
> that should be able to make a reasonable decision about this without us
> having to drag the entire project in it. Were they consulted about this?
> Did they disagree with you,
> "Milan" == Milan Kupcevic writes:
Milan> Pollo,
Milan> I trust your best intention but I hold that these decisions
Milan> should be worked out by the Project Leader and/or appointed
Milan> delegates in coordination with TOs and with help of qualified
Milan> advisers.
I have a similar thinking. In particular, Debian has a treasurer team
that should be able to make a reasonable decision about this without us
having to drag the entire project in it. Were they consulted about this?
Did they disagree with you, and is this your attempt at overriding them?
No,
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 10:37:44AM -0400, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
> On 6/18/22 19:43, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> > Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
> > body who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
> >
> > This is a proposal for Debian to create
On June 19, 2022 7:03:00 PM UTC, Micha Lenk wrote:
>Hi Antoine,
>
>Am 19.06.22 um 19:31 schrieb Antoine Beaupré:
>> I second this GR.
>> I understand people might not *agree* with it, but I still think it's
>> worth discussing it more, especially in the open.
>
>For discussing things, whether
Hi Antoine,
Am 19.06.22 um 19:31 schrieb Antoine Beaupré:
I second this GR.
I understand people might not *agree* with it, but I still think it's
worth discussing it more, especially in the open.
For discussing things, whether in the open or not, you don't need to
start or second a general
On 2022-06-18 22:40:01, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> Someone pointed out "assets" is very broad, and that would include
> things like hardware donations (something I don't think would be wise).
>
> I would hereby like to amend my proposal by replacing "assets" by
> "financial assets":
>
>
Quoting Louis-Philippe Véronneau (2022-06-19 17:25:42)
> On 2022-06-19 03 h 18, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:14:31PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> Someone pointed out "assets" is very broad, and that would include
> things like hardware donations
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:32:40AM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> We had a nice discussion on debian-private (the thread is named
> "Volatile assets, Debian money and SPI"), so I didn't feel I needed to
> have a long text explaining the rationale.
sigh. sad to see what happened to
Louis-Philippe Véronneau writes:
> On 2022-06-18 21 h 45, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> There also seemed to be a lot of consensus on debian-private. Do we
>> need a GR? I would expect the project delegates to be responsive to
>> the consensus on debian-private and that we would only need a GR if
>>
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 12:32 AM Louis-Philippe Véronneau
wrote:
>
> On 2022-06-19 05 h 42, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 07:43:06PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> >> Text of GR
> >>
> >> Donations to the Debian project of assets other than the TO's currency
On 2022-06-19 05 h 42, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 07:43:06PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
>> Text of GR
>>
>> Donations to the Debian project of assets other than the TO's currency
>> of choice should be liquidated as soon as possible.
>>
>> End Text of
On 2022-06-19 03 h 18, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:14:31PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Someone pointed out "assets" is very broad, and that would include
things like hardware donations (something I don't think would be wise).
I would hereby
On 6/18/22 19:43, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
body who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
This is a proposal for Debian to create a guideline for our TOs when
they receive donations of non-fiat assets.
It is
On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 07:43:06PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> Text of GR
>
> Donations to the Debian project of assets other than the TO's currency
> of choice should be liquidated as soon as possible.
>
> End Text of GR
what does that even mean?
also, is
On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:14:31PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> >> Someone pointed out "assets" is very broad, and that would include
> >> things like hardware donations (something I don't think would be wise).
> >>
> >> I would hereby like to amend my proposal by replacing "assets" by
On Sun, 2022-06-19 at 07:23 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> On 6/19/22 01:43, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> > Text of GR
> >
> > Donations to the Debian project of assets other than the TO's
> > currency
> > of choice should be liquidated as soon as possible.
> >
> > End Text
On 6/19/22 01:43, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Text of GR
Donations to the Debian project of assets other than the TO's currency
of choice should be liquidated as soon as possible.
End Text of GR
What's a TO?
On 2022-06-18 22 h 47, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>
> On June 19, 2022 2:40:01 AM UTC, "Louis-Philippe Véronneau"
> wrote:
>> Someone pointed out "assets" is very broad, and that would include
>> things like hardware donations (something I don't think would be wise).
>>
>> I would hereby like to
On June 19, 2022 2:40:01 AM UTC, "Louis-Philippe Véronneau"
wrote:
>Someone pointed out "assets" is very broad, and that would include
>things like hardware donations (something I don't think would be wise).
>
>I would hereby like to amend my proposal by replacing "assets" by
>"financial
Someone pointed out "assets" is very broad, and that would include
things like hardware donations (something I don't think would be wise).
I would hereby like to amend my proposal by replacing "assets" by
"financial assets":
Text of GR
Donations to the Debian project of *financial*
On 2022-06-18 21 h 45, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Louis-Philippe Véronneau writes:
>
>> Text of GR
>
>> Donations to the Debian project of assets other than the TO's currency
>> of choice should be liquidated as soon as possible.
>
> I think this may be too restrictive. One of the things
Louis-Philippe Véronneau writes:
> Text of GR
> Donations to the Debian project of assets other than the TO's currency
> of choice should be liquidated as soon as possible.
I think this may be too restrictive. One of the things that came out in
the subsequent discussion is the idea
Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
body who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
This is a proposal for Debian to create a guideline for our TOs when
they receive donations of non-fiat assets.
It is a result of the constructive debate we had on
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