Hi,
11.04.21 09:53 Kurt Roeckx:
> I think the best way to make the vote secret is that the DPL makes a
> decision. We have a process that can deal with people not agreeing
> with that decision.
Let's suppose the DPL decides the vote should be secret. Some people might
then vote based on the
Le dimanche, 11 avril 2021, 23.10:53 h CEST Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit :
> So I suggest the DPL directs under s5.1 something like:
>
> "The secretary shall delay publication of the the association between
> identify and ballot on the tally sheet, for a period of not more than 90
> days, unless
Hallo,
* Didier 'OdyX' Raboud [Sun, Apr 11 2021, 06:00:30PM]:
> For what I'm concerned, I don't "insist on making the personal views on this
> GR public", because it was always clear (to me) that all voters' personal
> views on this GR would end up being made public by the secretary on our
>
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:59:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I support this approach and believe the DPL should decide under 5.1(3)
> that Debian will not publish the association between identity and ballot
> for the RMS resolution.
I too support the mechanism to achieve it but not the
Le dimanche 11 avril 2021 à 18:12:56+0200, Micha Lenk a écrit :
> Hi Pierre-Elliott,
>
> Am 11.04.21 um 14:27 schrieb Pierre-Elliott Bécue:
> > > Those who insist on making the personal views on this (non-technical!!!)
> > > GR public should be ashamed of dragging their fellows into denuding
> >
Hi Pierre-Elliott,
Am 11.04.21 um 14:27 schrieb Pierre-Elliott Bécue:
Those who insist on making the personal views on this (non-technical!!!)
GR public should be ashamed of dragging their fellows into denuding
themselves for no good reason.
I am really worried that someone could say that
Le dimanche, 11 avril 2021, 01.02:18 h CEST Eduard Bloch a écrit :
> Those who insist on making the personal views on this (non-technical!!!)
> GR public should be ashamed of dragging their fellows into denuding
> themselves for no good reason.
Just clarifying one thing here, to make sure there's
Le 11 avril 2021 01:02:18 GMT+02:00, Eduard Bloch a écrit :
>Those who insist on making the personal views on this (non-technical!!!)
>GR public should be ashamed of dragging their fellows into denuding
>themselves for no good reason.
I am really worried that someone could say that holding to
On 11/04/2021 08:53, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> As secretary, I do not intend to make the vote secret.
Given Debian's current rules that is probably correct.
> Personally, I would like to see the vote secret.
Me too.
> I think the best way to make the vote secret is that the DPL makes a
> decision.
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 09:29:21AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> I agree for the GR vote to be secret. I understand others came to a
> different conclusion. I trust Kurt for making the right decision. I
> will not complain about it.
As secretary, I do not intend to make the vote secret.
I agree for the GR vote to be secret. I understand others came to a
different conclusion. I trust Kurt for making the right decision. I
will not complain about it.
--
Charles Plessy Nagahama, Yomitan, Okinawa, Japan
Debian Med packaging team
Hallo,
* Russ Allbery [Fri, Apr 09 2021, 10:59:16AM]:
> Sam Hartman writes:
>
> > Thanks for doing this. I'm actually very comfortable for us to make the
> > decision under 5.1(3). We cleraly cannot hold a GR in time to change
> > the constitution prior to the election ending. And our
Martin Pitt writes:
> Hello all,
>
> Pierre-Elliott Bécue [2021-04-10 18:16 +0200]:
>> After a careful thinking, I agree with Elena's opinion and would rather
>> not make the vote private while it already has started.
>
> Ulrike Uhlig [2021-04-10 18:20 +0200]:
>> On 10.04.21 15:33, Didier 'OdyX'
Hello all,
Pierre-Elliott Bécue [2021-04-10 18:16 +0200]:
> After a careful thinking, I agree with Elena's opinion and would rather
> not make the vote private while it already has started.
Ulrike Uhlig [2021-04-10 18:20 +0200]:
> On 10.04.21 15:33, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Le vendredi, 9
Hi!
On 10.04.21 15:33, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Le vendredi, 9 avril 2021, 19.12:26 h CEST Sam Hartman a écrit :
I don't think changing our 25+ years worth of GR practice (and GR tradition)
*right in the middle of a vote* will do any good; not internally, and not
externally.
Do I think
Le samedi 10 avril 2021 à 09:00:51-0700, Elana Hashman a écrit :
> On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 13:12:26 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > There has been increasing harassment of people based on what they are
> > expected to vote on the rms gr.
> > People on both sides have expressed increasing discomfort with
On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 13:12:26 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> There has been increasing harassment of people based on what they are
> expected to vote on the rms gr.
> People on both sides have expressed increasing discomfort with the idea
> of voting in public with the entire world knowing how they
Le vendredi, 9 avril 2021, 19.12:26 h CEST Sam Hartman a écrit :
> On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
> secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
For what is worth; let me bring a slightly dissonant voice in that discussion.
While abundantly aware of the
Hi!
On 09.04.21 20:08, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:59:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
* A secret ballot, while contrary to the constitution for GRs, is not
wholly irregular for the project. We use one every year for the DPL
election and the tradeoffs are
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 05:55:48PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> That said, I think it's a *very* bad idea to change the vote procedure
> during an ongoing vote. Really *bad* idea and precedence. Double more
> so on a vote with shortened discussion period.
>
> (plus secret voting is a *really
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:59:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> * A secret ballot, while contrary to the constitution for GRs, is not
> wholly irregular for the project. We use one every year for the DPL
> election and the tradeoffs are well-understood. This vote poses an
> additional
Sam Hartman writes:
> Thanks for doing this. I'm actually very comfortable for us to make the
> decision under 5.1(3). We cleraly cannot hold a GR in time to change
> the constitution prior to the election ending. And our constitution
> already has a provision for making decisions where a
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:12:26PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
> secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
I'm not sure this is not leaking.
> I argued on another list that[...]
> Several people agreed with me, ande one
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:12:26PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
> On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
> secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
If we're going to go this way, I would really like to make this
change soon. Based on the outcome of this, people
On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
I'll let the DPL speak for his own position.
A bit of background.
There has been increasing harassment of people based on what they are
expected to vote on the rms gr.
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