Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:32:22PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit : > > What would be different if there was no leader? Where would the > project lose more? Would it gain in some aspect? Hello Gunnar, Biology shows that complex systems often evolved “leaders”, even when they are selected or take th

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 09:53:46AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > I know, but if we were to be without a DPL, those delegations could > not be re-validated. It is not clear by reading the Constitution what > would happen to the "DPL delegates" if there was no DPL. However, > even assuming th

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-18 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: >> Without a leader, the press team would have to be delegated by the >> body of developers, through a GR or similar election, in order to >> actually be "the voice of Debian". > > Leaving out meta questions, when one can be consid

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:07:32PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Of course - But we do have a press team. If we were to lack a Leader, > the press team would just become the contact point for the press, > right? Right, but the difference is in "directionality". The press team puts into use their ab

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-18 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Margarita Manterola schrieb: Without a leader, the press team would have to be delegated by the body of developers, through a GR or similar election, in order to actually be "the voice of Debian". Leaving out meta questions, when one can be considered to be "the voice of Debian", but the

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-18 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Of course - But we do have a press team. If we were to lack a Leader, > the press team would just become the contact point for the press, > right? Without a leader, the press team would have to be delegated by the body of developers, through

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Toni Mueller dijo [Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:27:57AM +0100]: > > What would be different if there was no leader? Where would the > > project lose more? Would it gain in some aspect? > > I am not a candidate, but I can immediately see that the press would > take the voice of "random DDs" as the voice

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > What would be different if there was no leader? Where would the > project lose more? Would it gain in some aspect? The Constitution gives the DPL a number of duties that would then be vacant. Even though it wouldn't necessarily lead to total

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ quoted text reordered ] On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:32:22PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > (Yes, quite a hypothetical question. However, if 10-year predictions > are allowed, then mine is too ;-) ) Well, let's not drift too much in that direction, shall we? :-) (Just kidding, this question is perfe

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:32:22PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > So, today is April 15, and our Secretary prepares for a very difficult > announcement: There is a majority of votes for NOTA. Or we didn't > reach quorum. Or whatever you fancy - But the result is, none of the > four candidates won the

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 16.03.2010 at 22:32:22 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > As per Constitution 5.2.4, the vote should be repeated, as many times > as needed. Lets just assume it was different: The project has voted > not to have a leader anymore. > > What would be different if there was no leader? Where wo

Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-16 Thread Gunnar Wolf
So, today is April 15, and our Secretary prepares for a very difficult announcement: There is a majority of votes for NOTA. Or we didn't reach quorum. Or whatever you fancy - But the result is, none of the four candidates won the election. As per Constitution 5.2.4, the vote should be repeated, a