Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-11-18 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:12, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote: Do you have concrete suggestions for her on how it should be working? I know that the FreeBSD community has experimented with paid development for FreeBSD in the past; the first such attempt was done by Poul-Henning

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Raphael, On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 08:18:00AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello, this is a question to all DPL candidates. Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to work on the projects that

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:12:02AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I also don't think it is a bad thing, in principle, if Debian were to pay people to work on Debian. However, it is generally a bad idea if some cabal were to select who could get Debian monies and who couldn't; I believe that is

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:53:20PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:12:02AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I also don't think it is a bad thing, in principle, if Debian were to pay people to work on Debian. However, it is generally a bad idea if some cabal were to

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-14 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi Julien, On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Julien Cristau wrote: Compare Random Joe Developer is soliciting funding for his debian work vs Debian is soliciting funding for Random Joe Developer's debian work. The former is fine IMO, has no risk of being seen as a Debian thing, and can be done without

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:04:37PM +1100, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:01, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: Some DDs are able to pursue specific Debian projects due to bounties they put on the projects (both AJ and Raphael have similar initiatives on their

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 09:39:27AM +1100, Anthony Towns wrote: But all that aside, GSoC still gets some flames on Debian lists; see the thread on -devel from about this time last year, eg: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/04/msg00424.html

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 08:18:00AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to work on the projects that they'd like to do for Debian) but she wants to avoid the main

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-13 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to work on the projects that they'd like to do for Debian) but she wants to avoid the

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, thanks for your answers! On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Margarita Manterola wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 08:18:00AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to work on the projects that they'd like to do for Debian) but she wants to avoid the main

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 07:01:21PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: So, given that my main perplexities come from the fact that a DD is involved in organizing all this, you can imagine I wouldn't mind: a company doing that (which is already the case for Google with GSoC), a non-DD/DM doing

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-13 Thread Julien Cristau
Raphael, On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 17:52:33 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Margarita Manterola wrote: However, if it's seen as a Debian thing, instead of an external thing like GSoC is, then it might lead to some resentment from the side of the people that don't get any

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:11, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote: Note that GSoc is supposed to sponsor students to do some development work, preferably with the purpose of getting these people involved in a project they weren't involved in to begin with. That's not, per se, accurate. From

Re: Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:01, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: Some DDs are able to pursue specific Debian projects due to bounties they put on the projects (both AJ and Raphael have similar initiatives on their homepages, even though I don't know how much they are successful in

Question to all candidates: financing of development

2010-03-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, this is a question to all DPL candidates. Imagine a DD contacts you, she wants to setup an infrastructure to finance Debian related projects (i.e. paying people to enable them to work on the projects that they'd like to do for Debian) but she wants to avoid the main mistakes made during