Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Don Armstrong wrote: What do the DPL candidates feel about this? Do we require a GR to direct how account creation and keyring management is to be handled? Given my other answer in this thread, my answer is hopefully not. But if discussions and improvement proposals don't

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 02:22:50AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: As near as I can gather, it appears that so far no one feels to have the power necessary to change how account creation and key modification actually works. What do the DPL candidates feel about this? Do we require a GR to direct how

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:24:17AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: I know that account creation would be quick so long as you're active in the team That sentence could have ended right there, the fact that there is a SPoF there is problematic enough. -- 2. That which causes joy or

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-19 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: If you get elected, what will you do to prevent people from waiting for weeks (and usually for months) to see their account created after DAM approval? I think the problem would be trivial to fix. The DAM should be the party that makes the

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: I think the problem would be trivial to fix. The DAM should be the party that makes the *policy decision*, and then DSA should be tasked with actually creating the account, and keyring-maint with adding the key to the debian keyring. What is needed

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: If you get elected, what will you do to prevent people from waiting for weeks (and usually for months) to see their account created after DAM approval? I think the problem would be

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 09:58:45AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: I think the problem would be trivial to fix. The DAM should be the party that makes the *policy decision*, and then DSA should be tasked with actually creating the account, and keyring-maint with adding the key to the debian

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-18 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Depending on the quality of the report (which doesnt mean quality of AM or NM, also amount of mails and quoting style the people use and stuff like that), its between 30 and 60 minutes. If one does a reject you can count at least 2 hours, as you then

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-18 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:34:49PM +, Russ Allbery wrote: Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW Reviewing an AM report and an application is nothing near a small 5 minutes task. I believe it's rather 30 minutes of work per applicant if you do it seriously enough. Creating

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
(resending to list, I responded privately by error) Hi, On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: If you get elected, what will you do to prevent people from waiting for weeks (and usually for months) to see their account created after DAM approval? Account creation is not the only

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:35:35AM +, Raphael Hertzog wrote: We need to break that logic. I would like to talk with James and try to convince him to create accounts as they come. It's well known that small task (when they take less than 5 minutes) are usually best done on the fly instead

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11327 March 1977, Pierre Habouzit wrote: We need to break that logic. I would like to talk with James and try to convince him to create accounts as they come. It's well known that small task (when they take less than 5 minutes) are usually best done on the fly instead of accumulating them.

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:35:18AM +0100, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: Hello, If you get elected, what will you do to prevent people from waiting for weeks (and usually for months) to see their account created after DAM approval? Hi Nacho, NM is one of quite a few areas in Debian that I'd like

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW Reviewing an AM report and an application is nothing near a small 5 minutes task. I believe it's rather 30 minutes of work per applicant if you do it seriously enough. Creating an account should though (meaning I don't know if it is, but I see

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:35:18AM +0100, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: If you get elected, what will you do to prevent people from waiting for weeks (and usually for months) to see their account created after DAM approval? I would like to extend this question to what will you do to improve