Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-22 Thread Thomas Hochstein
gregor herrmann schrieb: > I also know from personal experience in (non-software) volunteer > organizations, and a friend of mine has written her diploma thesis on > this topic researching yet another NGO, that a setup with a volunteer > board/committee/chairperson/president and employed >

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-22 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le vendredi, 19 mars 2021, 10.38:08 h CET Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to help > smooth the internal working of organizations, I know at least of Django > with its fellowship program: >

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-20 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 23:20:58 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Leaving out the detail of Debian paying someone for work, this has one more > thing that can backfire hard, as I just could witness in an (entirely > unrelated) org: That those hired ones got more powerful than the actual > leader. Simply

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 16077 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote: There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to help smooth the internal working of organizations, I know at least of Django with its fellowship program: https://www.djangoproject.com/fundraising/#fellowship-program The current

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, thanks for your answer! On Fri, 19 Mar 2021, Sam Hartman wrote: > Um, no. > Money is power. > The DPL should help the project achieve its goals. > The DPL should not use the project's money to achieve their own > personal agenda. I would like to respond two things: 1/ The DPL would not

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Hartman
You asked if DDs would support the DPL hiring people. So I answer as an DD. > "Raphael" == Raphael Hertzog writes: Raphael> * it means that the DPL can organize the administrative Raphael> work so that it ends up on the shoulders of paid staff, and Raphael> the DPL can take a

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 19/03/21 3:08 pm, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > as a followup to my former question that dressed a negative picture > of the DPL role in the last years, I'd like to make a proposal and > see what you all think of it. > > There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to

Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, as a followup to my former question that dressed a negative picture of the DPL role in the last years, I'd like to make a proposal and see what you all think of it. There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to help smooth the internal working of organizations, I know