Re: Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 11:48:59AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: I would expect to see a highly polarised set of results, where most people rank further discussion as 2. It doesn't matter whether it's mathematically sound or not, that's how people think. It might be how *you* think; but at

Re: Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 02:13:26AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 11:48:59AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: I would expect to see a highly polarised set of results, where most people rank further discussion as 2. It doesn't matter whether it's mathematically sound or

Re: Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 11:48:59AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: I would expect to see a highly polarised set of results, where most people rank further discussion as 2. It doesn't matter whether it's mathematically sound or not, that's how people think. It might be how *you* think; but at

Re: Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 02:13:26AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 11:48:59AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: I would expect to see a highly polarised set of results, where most people rank further discussion as 2. It doesn't matter whether it's mathematically sound or

Re: Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-24 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 11:56:55AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: Interesting idea, but there's zero chance of it working. People can't even fill out the existing ballots properly, they'll never grasp this - so the results won't tell us anything particularly useful. I'm not sure why anyone who

Re: Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-24 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:55:03AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: No, that's not the case. Debian resolving to keep non-free as is is not the same as Debian deciding to discuss the matter further. For practical purposes, the outcome is identical. Keep non-free means nothing changes and

Re: Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:44:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:55:03AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: No, that's not the case. Debian resolving to keep non-free as is is not the same as Debian deciding to discuss the matter further. For practical purposes, the

Re: Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-24 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 11:56:55AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: Interesting idea, but there's zero chance of it working. People can't even fill out the existing ballots properly, they'll never grasp this - so the results won't tell us anything particularly useful. I'm not sure why anyone who

Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 03:27:55PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 04:42:05AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 12:38:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: At the moment the substantive options that have been discussed are: [ ] Drop non-free [