Re: Wouter and Gergely: software monopoly vs diversity

2012-03-31 Thread Gergely Nagy
Eugene V. Lyubimkin jac...@debian.org writes: What is your vision about how many different software pieces can be supported by Debian as a project for each part of the software stack, would it be architectures, kernels, init systems, high-level package managers, desktop environments or

Re: Wouter and Gergely: software monopoly vs diversity

2012-03-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
(this is getting increasingly off-topic for -vote, so this'll be my last post on the subject on this mailinglist) On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 07:36:22PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: AFAICS one is requesting to change the default to a dependency based boot system as the early boot gets less and less

Re: Wouter and Gergely: software monopoly vs diversity

2012-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 09:01:55AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: In some cases, of course, that isn't the case, and then things get somewhat more complex. A good example on that is the systemd discussion on -devel currently: making systemd

Re: Wouter and Gergely: software monopoly vs diversity

2012-03-17 Thread Luk Claes
On 03/17/2012 06:46 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 09:01:55AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: In some cases, of course, that isn't the case, and then things get somewhat more complex. A good example on that is the systemd

Wouter and Gergely: software monopoly vs diversity

2012-03-16 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Hello, What is your vision about how many different software pieces can be supported by Debian as a project for each part of the software stack, would it be architectures, kernels, init systems, high-level package managers, desktop environments or something else? In other words, would you want

Re: Wouter and Gergely: software monopoly vs diversity

2012-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Eugene, On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:50:28AM +0200, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: Hello, What is your vision about how many different software pieces can be supported by Debian as a project for each part of the software stack, would it be architectures, kernels, init systems, high-level

Re: Wouter and Gergely: software monopoly vs diversity

2012-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: In some cases, of course, that isn't the case, and then things get somewhat more complex. A good example on that is the systemd discussion on -devel currently: making systemd the default and required init implementation would, in the