Hi,
On 20/03/13 at 00:00 +0100, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote:
Dear candidates,
In the words of Lars [*]:
We're not very good at dealing with situations where a few individuals
are dominating the discussion by being loud, insistent, and unwilling to
budge
or to give any credence
On 20/03/13 at 11:22 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Hi,
I did not manage to formulate a better subject... the question is about what
should be the usual way to end our formal membership in the Debian project.
In Debian, we stay member until we die or quit (or very exceptionally, are
On 19/03/13 at 21:43 +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
* Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org [2013-03-19 07:44:32 CET]:
But it's also about how we see our project. I would like Debian to be
a very welcoming project, and I hate the fact that it's harder for some
groups to get involved.
Given that
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 02:07:40AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
3. One test I've been taught to use to reason about free software is the
Desert Island test [2] which
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
1. Some software Debian distribute are actually only useful when
connected to the Internet to access services for which the
source code is unavailable.
2. The Debian policy states (emphasis is mine):
# 2.2.2 The
On Mi, 20 mar 13, 06:47:32, Bart Martens wrote:
Good question. See also for example bug 681659. I don't know why
pidgin-facebookchat would belong in section main while flashplugin-nonfree
would belong section contrib. Both packages contain software that can freely
be redistributed but
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms
are frequently used to manipulate the data in those platforms including
pull data *out* of those platforms. It would be quite ironic if we
refused to include in the
On Tue, March 19, 2013 23:52, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
Do you have ideas on how to attract more volunteers to the dull, hard,
and sometimes boring tasks of taking care of security issues in Debian?
Perhaps it would be useful if we tried not to scare people away with
mischaracterizations that the
Hi Bart,
On 20-03-13 07:47, Bart Martens wrote:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
Dear candidates, do you think that libechonest [3] should be called free
software? As it requires software outside of the distribution to
function, do you think it should be moved to
Steve Langasek:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
3. One test I've been taught to use to reason about free software is the
Desert Island test [2] which starts by:
Imagine a castaway on a desert island with a solar-powered
computer.
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
In Debian, we stay member until we die or quit (or very exceptionally, are
expelled). The consequence is that it is hard to evaluate how much active
members we have. It may also create more crispations about giving membership.
We often discussed
Hi!
Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org writes:
I'd like to know your opinion on this. Are people with disabilities
something that we want to support, or is it just luck if they get a
working system. As a Free Software community, should we make sure that
the digital divide is not going to
(I still hadn't replied to that question -- I'll do that by following-up
on Moray's reply since I agree with most of it)
On 12/03/13 at 17:11 +0300, Moray Allan wrote:
[...]
- End-users are moving to web applications/the cloud. Few of the
most heavily used ones are free software. Even if
On 20/03/13 at 01:15 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Maybe we could discriminate on the package's priorities. For example,
about a third of the 49 packages *really* blocking the release (not
waiting for a transition) are from extra[2].
Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms are
frequently used to manipulate the data in those platforms including
pull data *out* of those platforms. It would be quite
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:27:58AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
You can use flashplugin-nonfree to download a piece of software that has
a nonfree license, which is then installed on your system; the result is
that you now have a system which has some non-DFSG-free software
installed. To be
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:35:19AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms are
frequently used to manipulate the data in those platforms
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:15:58 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
Even the suggestion of a testing removal can evoke negative feelings
for those affected (sometimes from those on the sidelines too). A
recent example:
http://bugs.debian.org/703258
There seems to be a misunderstanding; at least my
Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:27:58AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
You can use pidgin-facebookchat to talk to a non-free service; but
whatever you do, the result will *never* be that you end up with a
system which has some non-DFSG-free software installed.
Jérémy Bobbio lu...@debian.org writes:
I'll need to come up with other tools to think about the danger about
freedom I perceive from the “cloud”…
For the record, I think most of us are on the same page about the danger.
I certainly agree with your concern; I'm just not sure that the
Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:35:19AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms are
frequently used to
On 2013-03-18 15:55, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
How do we make an inherently archive-wide technical decision when
multiple, possibly equally valid solutions do exist?
(I think the latter part, the existence of alternatives, is
particularly
important here, as we have well-established approaches
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms are
frequently used to manipulate the data in those
Hi all,
I propose that either the discussion is reshaped to be more interactive with
the candidates, or it is moved to another channel where a broader participation
is expected.
Cheers,
--
Charles
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