Re: [all candidates] What to do with debian-private ?

2013-03-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 08:59:39AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I'm not sure we need that. There's an expectation that vacation messages have a [vac] prefix in the subject, which is mostly followed (although sometimes people do forget it). That makes it fairly easy to filter them out for

[all candidates] the release process

2013-04-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
What are the candidates opinion on the current release process? Can it be improved? What role should the DPL play in such work? Thanks - with apologies for raising this at a release-sensitive time, but obviously it has to be at a vote-appropriate time… -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [all candidates] the release process

2013-04-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 3 Apr 2013, at 17:29, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: The campaign period already finished a few days ago Yes, I was aware of that when I posted, but RL interfered with me asking prior to voting opening. I sought advice as to whether it was appropriate to ask further Qs and got a

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
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Re: Alternative proposal: support for alternative init systems is desirable but not mandatory

2014-10-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:16:37AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: Do you consider uselessd to be the same init system as systemd? To me this looks like a legitimate fork. Albeit one that isn't in the archive; there's an RFP bug[1] but noone has taken ownership of it / created an ITP. -- To

Re: Reducing the discussion and the voting period to 1 week

2014-10-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
in 20141017090800.ga3...@chew.redmars.org before taking this action. -- Jonathan Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141023065258.gd20

Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:32:00AM +0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: This discussion can end for good in two ways: * Debian declares that user choice of init systems is important and applications must respect that; * Debian declares that only systemd is supported; The currently GRs appear to be

Re: Legitimate exercise of our constitutional decision-making processes [Was, Re: Tentative summary of the amendments]

2014-10-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 09:46:44AM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: fwiw, as this seems to be a commonish error - you mean could not care less. People who could care less by definition do care. It's an en_US thing, I think. http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/couldcare.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 04:27:21AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: I'd assume he was referring to: If my GR passes we will only have to have this conversation if those who are outvoted do not respect the project's collective decision. If my GR fails I expect a series of bitter rearguard

Re: Plan B for kfreebsd

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:05:25PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Debian kFreeBSD looks dead in the water and that won't change whilst so many DDs are so pro systemd -- I think that systemd was the final nail in the coffin. It won't change so long as people don't work on it. In a reply to a

Re: done with consensus decisionmaking, war, rearguard battles [was: Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling]

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 12:22:07PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: What's the procedure for removing someone from the technical committee? An alternative to picking on one committee member would be to disband the current committee entirely, with an explicit rider stating that the action should not

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-07-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
otherwise constructive parts of our community. We are all only human and sometimes we don't have the emotional energy to deal with that. -private is, even if it isn't designed to be, a virtual safe space. -- Jonathan Dowland signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

2016-07-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
process soothes this a bit. I'd love to know what the original GR proposer (Daniel Ruoso) thinks about this; or the seconders (inc Neil McGovern who is still active at least); I seem to recall Amaya was involved but I could be remembering wrong. -- Jonathan Dowland Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

2016-07-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
like hardware not having free drivers? -- Jonathan Dowland Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution

2016-07-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
son? "Chair" is not ambiguous if you pay attention to the capitalisation, it's a proper noun. Therefore there's no need to change it to disambiguate. NACK -- Jonathan Dowland Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution

2016-07-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:16:22PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > Except I'm not posting to debian-private, but to debian-vote. Oh, > silly me. I wonder if there will be sanctions for this egregious violation of our privacy and trust ;) -- Jonathan Dowland Please do not CC me

Re: having public irc logs?

2017-04-12 Thread Jonathan Dowland
ooking. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Q to all candidates: what is the long-term role of traditional Linux distributions?

2019-04-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Thanks for asking these questions. I'm *really* interested to see how all the candidates respond (if they do) -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Questions about "Winding down my Debian involvement"

2019-03-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
of Debian. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd

2019-11-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
etc. as appropriate. (This resolution is a position statement under s4.1(5).) Seconded. -- Jonathan Dowland signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: General resolution: Condemn Russian invasion of the Ukraine

2022-04-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
but as far as DebConf is concerned, I wouldn't say it's any more or less a part of Debian than any other Debian sub-project. That's great news! -- Please do not CC me for listmail.  Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org  https://jmtd.net

Re: General resolution: Condemn Russian invasion of the Ukraine

2022-04-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
ve stopped short of saying "the majority of the people in Donbas and Crimea do not consider themselves to be part of Ukraine" but if that's what you are intending to assert then you're going to have to show some hard evidence. -- Please do not CC me for listmail.  Jonatha

Re: General resolution: Condemn Russian invasion of the Ukraine

2022-04-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
nation by holding Debconf 2022 there. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Debconf is not formally a part of Debian, and so cannot be bound by the outcome of a GR anyway. -- Please do not CC me for listmail.  Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org  https://jmtd.net