Re: Questions about Ubuntu

2006-03-05 Thread David N. Welton
of giving you the huge amount of choice Debian gives you right out of the box. The clever thing is that that choice is still there if you want it... -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: De-nomination

2006-02-23 Thread David N. Welton
Lars Wirzenius wrote: I hereby de-nominate myself as a candidate for DPL 2006. Well, I'm glad you won't be disappearing then, as is the custom for the DPL:-) -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-24 Thread David N. Welton
to distribute Oracle as a .deb in main? -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: For those who care about the GR

2006-01-22 Thread David N. Welton
trying to ascertain if this stance has a leg to stand on. ... and ? I am still trying to ascertain whether debian-legal has a leg to stand on. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread David N. Welton
I'm amazed at how little people seem to have done to inform themselves about all the candidates, myself. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Apache, Linux, Tcl Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread David N. Welton
Steve Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 09:12:51PM +0100, David N. Welton wrote: I'm amazed at how little people seem to have done to inform themselves about all the candidates, myself. Just because people vote in a way that you might not does not mean

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread David N. Welton
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) wrote: Just to be clear, nothing against Anthony Towns. I think he'd do alright as DPL. Sounds like you've asked a few people and are now hedging your bets! Nope, my comments had nothing to do with him. I'd like

Question for A. Towns - NM

2005-03-03 Thread David N. Welton
a standardised test suite run over it. Can you elaborate? What does this mean in practical terms? -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Apache, Linux, Tcl Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: General Resolution: Force AMD64 into Sarge

2004-07-20 Thread David N. Welton
This is something where I would really like to see our leader step in and get the communication straightened out, rather than voting, but I suppose I'd be willing to consider seconding it if it's short a few seconds. -- David N. Welton Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software

Re: General Resolution: Force AMD64 into Sarge

2004-07-20 Thread David N. Welton
. As much as possible at least:-) -- David N. Welton Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ Photos: http://www.dedasys.com/photos/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: -= PROPOSAL =- Release sarge with amd64

2004-07-13 Thread David N. Welton
. Can you include those, please? Some of those individuals do not respond to even friendly emails. -- David N. Welton Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ Photos: http://www.dedasys.com/photos

Re: Discussions in Debian

2004-06-24 Thread David N. Welton
? Because you have fun arguing or what? What is your point? What are you trying to achieve? -- David N. Welton Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ Photos: http://www.dedasys.com/photos

Re: Proposal - Deferment of Changes from GR 2004-003

2004-05-05 Thread David N. Welton
: that the amendments to the Social Contract contained within the General Resolution Editorial Amendments To The Social Contract (2004 vote 003) be immediately rescinded. craig I second this proposal as well. - -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com

Re: Proposal - Deferment of Changes from GR 2004-003

2004-05-05 Thread David N. Welton
: that the amendments to the Social Contract contained within the General Resolution Editorial Amendments To The Social Contract (2004 vote 003) be immediately rescinded. craig I second this proposal as well. - -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com

Re: Candidate questions/musings

2004-03-23 Thread David N. Welton
this much acrimony in other more or less important free software groups I'm involved with. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Candidate questions/musings

2004-03-23 Thread David N. Welton
this much acrimony in other more or less important free software groups I'm involved with. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/

Candidate questions/musings

2004-03-22 Thread David N. Welton
? -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ PS Really, I mean no disrespect to Martin or any other past leaders. The ones I've met have been

Re: Candidate questions/musings

2004-03-22 Thread David N. Welton
a leader - I'll probably vote for Branden, just to see what happens, although I'm not wild about his legalistic bent. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http

Re: Candidate questions/musings

2004-03-22 Thread David N. Welton
sort of atmosphere (Bruce wasn't perfect in that regard). -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Candidate questions/musings

2004-03-22 Thread David N. Welton
? -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ PS Really, I mean no disrespect to Martin or any other past leaders. The ones I've met have been

Re: Candidate questions/musings

2004-03-22 Thread David N. Welton
a leader - I'll probably vote for Branden, just to see what happens, although I'm not wild about his legalistic bent. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http

Re: Candidate questions/musings

2004-03-22 Thread David N. Welton
the right sort of atmosphere (Bruce wasn't perfect in that regard). -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-02 Thread David N. Welton
is something along the lines of and as DPL, do you think you can do anything about it, or plan to? to hear whether the candidates plan to do anything either personally or as DPL about any particular issue. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw

OT: Progeny Linux

2004-03-02 Thread David N. Welton
journal as linked by LWN, but can anyone point me to something more specific? It sounds very vaporwareish to me, but maybe there is some substance to it that I'm missing. Links to -devel discussions are ok. Thanks, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-02 Thread David N. Welton
is something along the lines of and as DPL, do you think you can do anything about it, or plan to? to hear whether the candidates plan to do anything either personally or as DPL about any particular issue. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw

Re: Let's vote already...

2004-01-09 Thread David N. Welton
of removing non-free, but let's have a vote already so that we can move on. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Let's vote already...

2004-01-09 Thread David N. Welton
of removing non-free, but let's have a vote already so that we can move on. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/

Re: The Free vs. Non-Free issue

2004-01-01 Thread David N. Welton
idea and why. Tell them that it puts us in a spot if it passes, but if you don't actually let them vote, it looks like kind of a sham. Personally, I agree with the sentiment that people's time would be better spent drawing up a list of free replacements for software in non-free. Ciao, -- David N

Re: The Free vs. Non-Free issue

2004-01-01 Thread David N. Welton
idea and why. Tell them that it puts us in a spot if it passes, but if you don't actually let them vote, it looks like kind of a sham. Personally, I agree with the sentiment that people's time would be better spent drawing up a list of free replacements for software in non-free. Ciao, -- David N

Re: First call for votes: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying GR

2003-06-09 Thread David N. Welton
Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU

Re: First call for votes: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying GR

2003-06-09 Thread David N. Welton
Err... apologies! I guess gnus ignores reply-to:-/ -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: First call for votes: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying GR

2003-06-09 Thread David N. Welton
Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU

Re: First call for votes: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying GR

2003-06-09 Thread David N. Welton
Err... apologies! I guess gnus ignores reply-to:-/ -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/

Re: Platform for DPL election

2003-03-02 Thread David N. Welton
any attention? Maybe it's a bad idea, but applicant, advocate, sponsor, committee, manager, etc makes me think I have stumbled into some government office where I have to fill out Form W2 1024D... Just a few thoughts, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http

Re: Platform for DPL election

2003-03-02 Thread David N. Welton
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having dead applications in the queue doesn't buy anybody anything afaict. And, in fact, that's not what I suggested. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http

Re: Platform for DPL election

2003-03-02 Thread David N. Welton
would like to see someone lead by picking a direction and going there, not by trying to run ahead of the herd but looking back to see where the herd is headed. Don't worry about doing stupid stuff and going the wrong way - we'll let you know - vocally;-) -- David N. Welton Consulting: http

Re: Platform for DPL election

2003-03-02 Thread David N. Welton
any attention? Maybe it's a bad idea, but applicant, advocate, sponsor, committee, manager, etc makes me think I have stumbled into some government office where I have to fill out Form W2 1024D... Just a few thoughts, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http

Re: Platform for DPL election

2003-03-02 Thread David N. Welton
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having dead applications in the queue doesn't buy anybody anything afaict. And, in fact, that's not what I suggested. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http

Re: Platform for DPL election

2003-03-01 Thread David N. Welton
would like to see someone lead by picking a direction and going there, not by trying to run ahead of the herd but looking back to see where the herd is headed. Don't worry about doing stupid stuff and going the wrong way - we'll let you know - vocally;-) -- David N. Welton Consulting: http

Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

2003-02-05 Thread David N. Welton
don't go your way:-) -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

2003-02-05 Thread David N. Welton
don't go your way:-) -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/

Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

2003-02-03 Thread David N. Welton
are they 'experts'? Frankly, I want to see some law degrees, or the equivalent work experience in the legal field, before I start listening to most of those people. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com

Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

2003-02-03 Thread David N. Welton
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:05:37AM -0800, David N. Welton wrote: Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 19. Should decisions about DFSG-compliance be made on the debian-legal list, or should we have a more formalized body for making

Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

2003-02-03 Thread David N. Welton
are they 'experts'? Frankly, I want to see some law degrees, or the equivalent work experience in the legal field, before I start listening to most of those people. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com

Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

2003-02-03 Thread David N. Welton
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:05:37AM -0800, David N. Welton wrote: Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 19. Should decisions about DFSG-compliance be made on the debian-legal list, or should we have a more formalized body for making

Re: debian unmanageable?

2002-12-09 Thread David N. Welton
Dmitry Borodaenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 10:43:30AM -0800, David N. Welton wrote: DNW On the other hand, is it fair to entrust the project to a DNW (potential) majority of developers who are still learning as they DNW go, and who haven't been around that long

debian unmanageable?

2002-12-08 Thread David N. Welton
have been around Debian since 1997. If Debian happens to need an supreme and feared emperor-for-life, I'd be happy to volunteer. I want minions as part of the deal, though. Ciao, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-16 Thread David N. Welton
of democracy in the form of our system of resolutions, the constitution, and all that other nonsense, to get things done that we can't directly do ourselves. We need to either accept this, or get rid of all this vote crap as a sham. I vote for door numer #2. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-28 Thread David N. Welton
, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-28 Thread David N. Welton
, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: questions: programming and leadership experience

2002-03-15 Thread David N. Welton
answered quite satisfactorily. Thankyou, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: questions: programming and leadership experience

2002-03-15 Thread David N. Welton
answered quite satisfactorily. Thankyou, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/

questions: programming and leadership experience

2002-03-14 Thread David N. Welton
. In 500 words or less - or, as an alternative, what I did during my summer vacation. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

questions: programming and leadership experience

2002-03-14 Thread David N. Welton
. In 500 words or less - or, as an alternative, what I did during my summer vacation. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/

debian services and responsibility

2002-03-01 Thread David N. Welton
, as DPL, would manage this situation, balancing the needs of the developers, the fact that you have to work through volunteers, and so on... Thankyou for your time, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http

responsability, blah blah blah

2002-03-01 Thread David N. Welton
. Thanks, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ BTW, it wasn't my intention to rag on brainfood. They have given a lot to the Debain

debian services and responsibility

2002-03-01 Thread David N. Welton
, as DPL, would manage this situation, balancing the needs of the developers, the fact that you have to work through volunteers, and so on... Thankyou for your time, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http

responsability, blah blah blah

2002-03-01 Thread David N. Welton
. Thanks, -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ BTW, it wasn't my intention to rag on brainfood. They have given a lot to the Debain