On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:13:41 +1000, Anthony Towns
said:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 09:59:24AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:48:51 +1000, Anthony Towns
>> said:
>> > Yes, it is. And Debian's response to that was unpleasant enough
>> > that Bruce decided to leave two o
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 19:59:48 +0100, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> In that case I wonder why no rebuttals were posted and why the IRC
> debate was called off, if obviously there is more need for
> information and discussion.
I see where the problem lies. You think we are the B
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 08:50:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Anthony Towns writes:
> > [0]
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200401/msg01914.html
> This does not say you are a hypocrite. In this message, Nathanael
> Nerode says you convinced him "of the historic
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 08:42:54PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Anthony Towns writes:
> > It's reasonably common in real life voting to limit campaigning in the
> > days before the actual election.
> Huh? In this country it's certainly not.
And? You are aware there are other countries in
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 09:12:37PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> The details actually vary, but the point is that there is no
> *time-based* limitation. Indeed, campaigning is predictably heavy on
> the last few days and the day itself.
Perhaps it's only limited in civilised countries :-)
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:50:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > No, the problem is that if you try to lead people you'll quickly get
> > someone accusing you of, eg, trying to herd them like sheep. Or
> > otherwise implying that you're a disrespectful fool, incapable of
> > dealing with peopl
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:24:08 +1000, Anthony Towns
said:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:50:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> > No, the problem is that if you try to lead people you'll quickly
>> > get someone accusing you of, eg, trying to herd them like
>> > sheep. Or otherwise implying that
Anthony Towns writes:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 08:50:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > Anthony Towns writes:
> > > [0]
> > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200401/msg01914.html
> > This does not say you are a hypocrite. In this message, Nathanael
> > Nerode say
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In Australia we have a 'blackout' on electronic media advertising for
> the three full days before an election.
Yeah, I was assuming something like that from what Anthony said. It's
not very common elsewhere I think.
Anthony Towns writes:
> And? You are aware there are other countries in the world, right? You're
> also aware that "common" doesn't mean universal, and that whether it
> happens in 10% of cases or 90% doesn't make any difference to the point
> of my mail? If you're not sure whether to accept some
Ji,
I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large
change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact on
the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording.
* Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040323 19:10]:
> [ Andrews proposal ]
> Old text
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 06:34, Anand Kumria wrote:
> I, personally, suspect that the unfriendliness of Debian is behind
> a lot of requests for smaller mailing lists seen by listmaster
> these days. A lot of people don't bother to use the main mailing
> lists anymore but instead find it simpler
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:33:45AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Your arguments were wrong because people have lots of trouble
> understanding what the Social Contract says in so many words.
People have lots of trouble understanding many other things, too.
Included in the set of things that
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The diversity is not really all that diverse -- and calling
> this group a "universal representative slice" is about as arrogant as
> the "world Series" purports to represent the world.
Heh. I think the idea is that Major League Baseball inc
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 22:20, Raul Miller wrote:
> People have lots of trouble understanding many other things, too.
> Included in the set of things that people have trouble
> understanding are people, computers, and just about everything
> else.
IMHO, the only thing that is actually difficult
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:07:27 +0100, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large
> change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact
> on the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording.
I thi
Andreas Barth wrote:
> Ji,
>
> I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large
> change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact on
> the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording.
This is, in Andrew's proposal, basically an issue of wording.
(A
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:50:17 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> In Australia we have a 'blackout' on electronic media advertising
> for the three full days before an election.
Umm. The link below tells us that there is a blackout, but not
the rationale for it. And why is
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 06:44:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> The current statement is:
>
> >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software
> This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that
> everything in Debian is free.
:%s/and furthermore/and\/or/
--
Raul
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Anthony Towns writes:
>
>> And? You are aware there are other countries in the world, right? You're
>> also aware that "common" doesn't mean universal, and that whether it
>> happens in 10% of cases or 90% doesn't make any difference to the point
>> of my mail? If y
Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> New text:
>
> 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards
[...]
> We encourage CD
> manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and
> determine if they can distribute the packages on their CDs.
^^
Th
thankyou 4 letting us know we have been the 5th
on the web.what is our
prize
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 09:12:37PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> The details actually vary, but the point is that there is no
> *time-based* limitation. Indeed, campaigning is predictably heavy on
> the last few days and the day itself.
Perhaps it's only limited in civilised countries :-)
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:50:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > No, the problem is that if you try to lead people you'll quickly get
> > someone accusing you of, eg, trying to herd them like sheep. Or
> > otherwise implying that you're a disrespectful fool, incapable of
> > dealing with peopl
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:24:08 +1000, Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:50:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> > No, the problem is that if you try to lead people you'll quickly
>> > get someone accusing you of, eg, trying to herd them like
>> > sheep. Or other
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In Australia we have a 'blackout' on electronic media advertising for
> the three full days before an election.
Yeah, I was assuming something like that from what Anthony said. It's
not very common elsewhere I think.
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Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And? You are aware there are other countries in the world, right? You're
> also aware that "common" doesn't mean universal, and that whether it
> happens in 10% of cases or 90% doesn't make any difference to the point
> of my mail? If you're not sure whe
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 08:50:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200401/msg01914.html
> > This does not say you are a hypocrite. In this me
Ji,
I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large
change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact on
the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording.
* Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040323 19:10]:
> [ Andrews proposal ]
> Old text
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 06:34, Anand Kumria wrote:
> I, personally, suspect that the unfriendliness of Debian is behind
> a lot of requests for smaller mailing lists seen by listmaster
> these days. A lot of people don't bother to use the main mailing
> lists anymore but instead find it simpler
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:33:45AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Your arguments were wrong because people have lots of trouble
> understanding what the Social Contract says in so many words.
People have lots of trouble understanding many other things, too.
Included in the set of things that
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The diversity is not really all that diverse -- and calling
> this group a "universal representative slice" is about as arrogant as
> the "world Series" purports to represent the world.
Heh. I think the idea is that Major League Baseball inc
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 22:20, Raul Miller wrote:
> People have lots of trouble understanding many other things, too.
> Included in the set of things that people have trouble
> understanding are people, computers, and just about everything
> else.
IMHO, the only thing that is actually difficult
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:07:27 +0100, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large
> change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact
> on the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording.
I thi
Andreas Barth wrote:
> Ji,
>
> I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large
> change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact on
> the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording.
This is, in Andrew's proposal, basically an issue of wording.
(A
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:50:17 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> In Australia we have a 'blackout' on electronic media advertising
> for the three full days before an election.
Umm. The link below tells us that there is a blackout, but not
the rationale for it. And why is
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 06:44:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> The current statement is:
>
> >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software
> This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that
> everything in Debian is free.
:%s/and furthermore/and\/or/
--
Raul
--
To UN
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> And? You are aware there are other countries in the world, right? You're
>> also aware that "common" doesn't mean universal, and that whether it
>> happens in 10% of cases or 90% doesn't make any difference to the point
Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> New text:
>
> 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards
[...]
> We encourage CD
> manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and
> determine if they can distribute the packages on their CDs.
^^
Th
thankyou 4 letting us know we have been the 5th
on the web.what is our
prize
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