Le Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 08:07:40PM +0300, Moray Allan a écrit :
Nevertheless, I think it would be useful for us to have some wider
kind of internship scheme, for the huge proportion of Debian
activity that definitely will not fit under the current GSoC rules.
Hi Moray,
I have a question:
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Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@debian.org writes:
in the past i heared several ideas about a Debian Project Leader board
similar to the SPI board.
So lets imagine the project would have to vote for several members of
this sort of board, with
Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@debian.org writes:
in the past Debian had some generous donors, who donated a huge amounts
of high quality hardware on regual basis to the Debian project. For some
reasons (not to be discussed here) those sources dont exist any more.
One idea - perhaps a naive one, as
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On 2013-03-12 09:45, Charles Plessy wrote:
I have a question: could you comment on the differences,
complementarity, or
overlap between such an internship and the NM process, which already
has
extensive questions about packaging. My personal experience is that
when I
went through the NM
On 2013-03-11 23:56, Ana Guerrero wrote:
The question I would love to see answered by you both is:
What new schemes of mentoring/integrating new contributors do you
envisage we could try in Debian?
I'm sure there are more possibilities that I haven't thought of yet,
but I can see space for
(starting a new thread)
Hi,
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Moray Allan wrote:
If there was general support then we could look at organising a
funded program, but I would need a lot of persuasion before wanting
to get into the question of Debian picking specific individuals to
pay for their work while
On 2013-03-12 12:43, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Moray Allan wrote:
If there was general support then we could look at organising a
funded program, but I would need a lot of persuasion before wanting
to get into the question of Debian picking specific individuals to
pay for
Hi,
my previous mail targeted the topic of using Debian's money
(20130312094330.ga30...@x230-buxy.home.ouaza.com). But the topic
of money in Debian does not have to be limited to that.
The Debian ecosystem includes many economical actors, be it companies
or individuals, but we tend to hide those
On 2013-03-12 02:47, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
@all: do you think it is worth spending large amount of money donated
to
Debian to keep our core hardware infrastructure on its current level?
For people who don't know what the hardware replacement plan is about,
see e.g.
On 2013-03-12 07:17, Paul Wise wrote:
Removing packages in the freeze is way too late, they should be
removed from testing in an (semi-)automated fashion during the whole
release cycle. IIRC the release team are planning on doing this and
have done it manually in the past.
Indeed -- I should
On 2013-03-12 01:03, Russ Allbery wrote:
On the general topic of mentoring, though, I think one of the hardest
parts of helping new people join the project is that people need to
start
with relatively easy tasks so that they can get their feet wet.
Yes. Even where there is an existing list
[M-F-T set to 628...@bugs.debian.org, as I believe this is becoming OT]
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:17:29PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
[..]
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Moray Allan wrote:
[..]
Flag up RC bugs: To tackle things earlier in the cycle, perhaps we could
push use of some tools[1]
On 11/03/13 at 21:56 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
[Some sort-of thread hijacking]
Hi folks,
I see this thread going nowhere and it's a pity because discussing new
ways to integrate contributors in Debian is a topic worth discussing.
I have been involved in GSoC in the editions 2011 and
Hi Russ,
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 03:03:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org writes:
- For some DDs in previous years, this seemed to be a way to have students
doing stuff from their TODO lists...
Just a quick note on this part: I don't think this is inherently
On 2013-03-11 16:35, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
But then, one wonders, what are the main challenges that free
software
at large faces today? [...]
What do candidates think of this? Is free software going well? Is
it
going to go better or worse in forthcoming years? Why?
For me the biggest
On 2013-03-12 02:54, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
What do you think about this idea? Would it be worth in long term to
establish such a leader board (and therefore a change to our current
constitution) for the Debian Project, or do you think the DPL should
stay a single person?
Before answering,
On 2013-03-12 13:19, Moray Allan wrote:
Before thinking about any further examples
In fact I fear that it's logically impossible for me to give examples
to demonstrate my point. My claim is that I would be open to new ideas
from others about spending money, and actively look for
Hi,
while reading your platforms I noticed that you're rather vague on your
future Debian commitment for that one of you ending as DPL for real.
Moray mostly answered my question already, but if he wants to extend
he's surely invited to elaborate. Hence, my question primarily addresses
lucas and
I'm writing this prompted by some of the lines written by Gergely and
Moray in the about a DPL board thread.
One of the difficulties I perceive we have seen over the years is the
time it takes to transfer the know-how and work rhythm from an
outgoing DPL to an incoming one. Several of our DPLs
Hello Lucas,
I've read your platform and I share your 5-years goals and I agree
on most of the suggested intermediary goals to bring us closer to
the long term goals.
That said, it's not clear to me how you plan to achieve them. Being
the DPL doesn't grant you more time to implement them
On 12/03/13 at 14:14 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
Hi Russ,
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 03:03:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org writes:
- For some DDs in previous years, this seemed to be a way to have students
doing stuff from their TODO lists...
Just a
On 12/03/13 at 13:18 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
What I can think about:
Forgot something:
schools/seminars
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Ubuntu does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek - a set of
seminars on IRC to teach Ubuntu development. I'm not sure of how useful
that is (I've never attended
Hi,
this is a question to all candidates.
Debian's infrastructure and processes have grown organically over the
years, with all the strengths and weaknesses that it implies. Sometimes
it's a good idea to step back and look whether some of those need
to be amended/replaced/dropped/etc.
Based on
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:55:42 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
schools/seminars
--
Ubuntu does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek - a set of
seminars on IRC to teach Ubuntu development. I'm not sure of how useful
that is (I've never attended it) and if we should do it
Hi,
On 12/03/13 at 00:54 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
Hi,
in the past i heared several ideas about a Debian Project Leader board
similar to the SPI board.
So lets imagine the project would have to vote for several members of
this sort of board, with every member being on-board for
Hi,
On 12/03/13 at 18:31 +0100, Arno Töll wrote:
Hi,
while reading your platforms I noticed that you're rather vague on your
future Debian commitment for that one of you ending as DPL for real.
Moray mostly answered my question already, but if he wants to extend
he's surely invited to
On 03/12/2013 06:37 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hello Lucas,
I've read your platform and I share your 5-years goals and I agree
on most of the suggested intermediary goals to bring us closer to
the long term goals.
That said, it's not clear to me how you plan to achieve them. Being
the
On 2013-03-12 20:35, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
In the past, when I was a new DD, there was this strange
and sad tendency that after finishing their DPL term, DPLs tended to
leave the project (or strongly reduce their involvement) — I *think*
there is some correlation with the DPL task pickup burnout
Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org writes:
However, the DPL role for a single year is already a big commitment,
taking a lot of energy and time (typically including a lot of the time
that person previously spent in other areas of Debian). Already many
people who would perform the role well choose
Hi Ana,
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 14:14 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
I see your point. In these cases, the mentor was more treating the GSoC
program as a bounty program or a way to have contractors paid at the expense
of somebody else. It wasn't a real mentoring scheme.
This kind of mentoring
On 12/03/13 at 18:37 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hello Lucas,
I've read your platform and I share your 5-years goals and I agree
on most of the suggested intermediary goals to bring us closer to
the long term goals.
That said, it's not clear to me how you plan to achieve them. Being
Hi,
On 12/03/13 at 11:35 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
I'm writing this prompted by some of the lines written by Gergely and
Moray in the about a DPL board thread.
One of the difficulties I perceive we have seen over the years is the
time it takes to transfer the know-how and work rhythm from
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 07:50:27PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 12/03/13 at 14:14 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
..
This kind of mentoring let's package this new software stack (and create
a team to maintain it, when it doesn't exist) doesn't need to happen inside
the GSoC, it can happen
Hi,
[ Your question is similar in some ways to a question asked earlier by
Lars Wirzenius. See my answer at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2013/03/msg00020.html ]
On 12/03/13 at 20:17 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hi,
this is a question to all candidates.
Debian's infrastructure
On Tue 12 Mar 2013 17:56:10 Ana Guerrero escribió:
[snip]
Yeah, and also the GSoC have a huge disadvantage, it is available only to a
tiny small percentage of the population who have the privilege of getting
a higher education, then only if their school load and life
responsibilities allow
Hi,
On 12/03/13 at 21:56 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 07:50:27PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 12/03/13 at 14:14 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
..
This kind of mentoring let's package this new software stack (and create
a team to maintain it, when it doesn't
On 12/03/13 at 00:47 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
Hi,
in the past Debian had some generous donors, who donated a huge amounts
of high quality hardware on regual basis to the Debian project. For some
reasons (not to be discussed here) those sources dont exist any more.
As this hardware
On 12/03/13 at 10:43 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
To other candidates, do you believe that we could benefit from using money
for other things than hardware and meeting/travel reimbursment? If yes,
what kind of things?
[ I replied in https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2013/03/msg00084.html ]
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
I do wonder why your question is for lucas specifically? It would be
interesting to hear other candidates on this too.
Because I find that Lucas has included more technical and concrete goals
than others have done and it's difficult to find volunteers to
Hi,
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
3) For what kind of things?
Since you are asking the question, isn't it up to you to come up with
ideas/examples? :) I find it difficult to discuss such things in the
general case.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Moray Allan wrote:
In fact I fear that
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Ubuntu does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek - a set of
seminars on IRC to teach Ubuntu development. I'm not sure of how useful
that is (I've never attended it) and if we should do it too. AFAIK we
don't do that inside Debian.
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