Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-08 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Fri 08 Nov 2019 at 06:04PM +01, Ansgar wrote: > No, but maybe I expressed myself badly: we have people that complain > that building Debian source packages with a Debian-specific command is a > too high burden. This is independent of how source is represented (Git, > .dsc, rpm,

Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-08 Thread Ansgar
Sean Whitton writes: > On Fri 08 Nov 2019 at 04:51PM +01, Ansgar wrote: >> We already have people complaining that source packages are "too Debian >> specific" and should be replaced. The tooling above is even more of a >> problem as third parties currently have to deal with way too many >>

Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-08 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Fri 08 Nov 2019 at 04:51PM +01, Ansgar wrote: > We already have people complaining that source packages are "too Debian > specific" and should be replaced. The tooling above is even more of a > problem as third parties currently have to deal with way too many > different ways to even

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2019-11-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Holger" == Holger Levsen writes: Holger> On Thu, Nov 07Holger> Finally, I don't think it's a good idea to rush this to a Holger> vote in 7 days. I'm tempted to mail d-d-a to make people who Holger> are not regularily read -vote aware of this Holger> discussion. (There

Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-08 Thread Ansgar
Holger Levsen writes: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 01:04:20PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: >> >> version 2330c05afa4 [...] >> Choice 3: systemd without Diversity as a Priority > [...] > > I guess this option will get ammendments: > > a.) 'systemd without

Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 01:04:20PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > version 2330c05afa4 > Choice 1: Affirm Init Diversity [...] looks generally like a fine option to me. > Choice 2: systemd but we Support Exploring Alternatives [...] as others have said,

why mention Constitution section 4.1 (5 or even 4)? (Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR)

2019-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 01:04:20PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > version 2330c05afa4 > > Using its power under Constitution section 4.1 (5) I fail to see why Constitution section 4.1 (5) is referred here. I'd better understand section 4.1 (4) and would