Re: kFreeBSD is fantastic

2007-03-07 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 00:34:44 -0600, Drew Scott Daniels wrote: I feel the real concerns for kfreebsd porters are in getting patches accepted, and having some additional resources. For now this may be accomplished outside the Debian resources, but official recognition might make things more

Re: Getting patches applied. emulated buildd's are good (was: kFreeBSD is fantastic)

2007-03-09 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 20:41:43 -0600, Drew Scott Daniels wrote: 68k seems to have elected to skip official etch, but also seems to have met the requirements. Some of the non-dd porters still want an official etch release. (They met the requirements after the architecture freeze, and

GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-18 Thread Guillem Jover
[ M-F-T set to debian-vote@l.d.o, not seeking sponsors yet see below. ] Hi! I think that forcing a decision through the TC at this time was very premature and inappropriate, because I don't think enough effort had been made to reach consensus (failing §6.3(6)), because the TC seems to have been

Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi Steve! On Sat, 2014-01-18 at 19:16:44 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 01:01:44AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: Moreover, none of the proponents of alternative init system seem to have expended much energy in seeking wide deployment of their solutions within Debian

Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi Ian! On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 12:04:17 +, Ian Jackson wrote: Guillem Jover writes (GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian): I think that forcing a decision through the TC at this time was very premature and inappropriate, [...] Perhaps surprisingly, I am not entirely opposed

Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi Enrico! On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 14:56:27 +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:04:17PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: My reasons are quite different to yours: to summarise, it seems to me that the init system decision involves political questions as well as technical ones. I

Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-20 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Given the tone in this mail, I'd usually not bother replying, but I guess it's my duty given the proposed changes to the draft. ] Hi, On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 16:53:12 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: I think you are missing the following options and have only listed options which you consider

Re: Proposed amendment (was: Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian)

2014-01-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 17:06:45 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 08:20:35PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: What I am saying is: Let's allow the Debian system to evolve freely: the result will not be breakage, but systemd as a de facto default. This argument has

Re: Proposed amendment (was: Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian)

2014-01-25 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 18:15:46 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 05:50:47PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: Ok, given what you mentioned above, your preference is not easily represented with the current GR draft, and I don't think this amendment makes much sense (at least

[Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-27 Thread Guillem Jover
[ M-F-T and Reply-To set to debian-vote@l.d.o. ] Hi! This is the revised draft GR proposal (please see below); I'm looking for sponsors now. On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 01:01:44 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: I think that forcing a decision through the TC at this time was very premature

Re: Last minute cominbations G+D and/or G+E

2019-12-04 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2019-12-04 at 17:11:49 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Thanks for this. No-one else has said anything. Having thought about > it, I think Guillem's framing would lead me to a conclusion closer to > Dmitry's E rather than my option D - but either is arguable. As I mentioned in my “Reframing”

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 22:50:32 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > That's 5, I'll update everything. Thanks for this Kurt! Much appreciated! Regards, Guillem

Re: Last minute cominbations G+D and/or G+E

2019-12-06 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 13:18:06 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > I already started yesterday to try to structure and organize my > thoughts on how I'd express this. I do have today packed until later > this evening, so I think it's unrealisting that I can propose anything > today. I

Option G update (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to get into the ballot, given the new context after the addition of the combined D+G option. But it's not very clear to me whether this will be acceptable or not to the Secretary, and what would be the actual procedure to replace the existing

Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Sorry, resending signed this time around. :/ ] Hi! Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to get into the ballot, given the new context after the addition of the combined D+G option. But it's not very clear to me whether this will be acceptable or not to the Secretary, and what

Re: Last minute cominbations G+D and/or G+E

2019-12-05 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 10:53:33 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Guillem Jover writes ("Re: Last minute cominbations G+D and/or G+E"): > > On Wed, 2019-12-04 at 17:11:49 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > I do not intend either of these proposals to replace E or D, nor G. &g

Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations

2019-11-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! I think the current GR is incorrectly framing the problem at hand, as if it was just an init system selection. It seems to me, that an init system is in principle just one of the many technologies we ship and integrate. But at least when it comes to systemd, choosing that in detriment to

Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations

2019-12-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! I've been busy late yesterday and today, and not been able to reply to some of the questions presented. I've got an early flight in a few hours, so I'm unable to finish the draft reply I've started but which I plan to send tomorrow (Monday). Sorry about this, but the rushed timeline is not

Reframing (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ I'm sorry this has gotten a bit long, but I assume I'm going to run out of time for any discussion, due to the imposed timeline, so I'm trying to put it all upfront. ] On Sat, 2019-11-30 at 11:54:09 -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: > Guillem Jover writes: > > I think the c

Re: Informal Discussion: Identities of Voters Casting a Particular Ballot are No Longer Public

2022-02-18 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2022-02-13 at 14:28:44 -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: > This starts informal discussion of a proposed general resolution to > amend the constitution. I am not seeking sponsors at this time. > Comments including support or alternatives are welcome. I think this is > mature enough to seek