Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 12:51:24PM +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Neil Williams wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:18:32 +1100 > > "Michael ." wrote: > > > >> >There is no namespace issue, we are building on the existing > >>

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Iain R. Learmonth
Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 12:41:16PM +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote: > Would you (or Steve or the Debian CD team) please point to actual real > bugs that affected you? > You claim it as a reason of debian cd team switch to vmdebootsrap. As > a live-build user, I'm interested by these. As in my

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Fathi Boudra
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Neil Williams wrote: > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:18:32 +1100 > "Michael ." wrote: > >> >There is no namespace issue, we are building on the existing >> >live-config >> and >> >live-boot packages that are maintained and

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 08:59:41 +0100 chals wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Iain R. Learmonth > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > It is worth noting that live-build is not a Debian project, it is an > > external project that claims to be an official Debian

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Fathi Boudra
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Neil Williams wrote: > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 08:59:41 +0100 > chals wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Iain R. Learmonth >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > It is worth noting that live-build is not a

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Michael .
>See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/experimental-live/. These are far too >experimental currently for public consumption and so not listed on the >website. 2 things. 1st, it looks like that page popped up yesterday. 2nd, if they are experimental they are absolutely no good in any way shape or

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Richard Nelson
Greetings, On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Neil Williams wrote: > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 08:59:41 +0100 > chals wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Iain R. Learmonth > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > Hi, > > > > Reading what

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Iain R. Learmonth
Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 08:47:53PM +1100, Michael . wrote: >Yet the Debian CD webpage points directly to Debian Live iso images as >official images even though you or Iain have said they are not >official. You haven't found a solution, you haven't even got a Live iso >image

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Michael .
>No, in the Debian project, no team has exclusive rights over package >namespaces - filename conflicts are different. Namespacing should be >consistent with the purpose of the package to avoid confusion. >live-build-ng is the next generation of build tool for live images. The >name is appropriate.

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Bug#804315: Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:18:32 +1100 "Michael ." wrote: > >There is no namespace issue, we are building on the existing > >live-config > and > >live-boot packages that are maintained and bringing these into > >Debian as native projects. If necessary, these will be forks, but