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now.
On 14/03/14 02:21, Nils Dagsson Moskopp wrote:
Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org writes:
Jo Shields dijo [Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:34:59PM +]:
Let's be very, very, very clear then.
This is a game where you play a
2014-03-14 9:59 GMT+01:00 Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org:
*TRIGGER WARNING* in case it wasn't painfully obvious for this thread by
now.
Thanks for the warning. Just for the record, I can confirm that there
has been people already triggered by all this situation. We can't
forget that, as the
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:07:20AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
2014-03-14 9:59 GMT+01:00 Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org:
*TRIGGER WARNING* in case it wasn't painfully obvious for this thread by
now.
Thanks for the warning. Just for the record, I can confirm that there
has been people
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 03:30:38AM -0700, Vincent Cheng wrote:
Due to the above, I'm going to be watching the progress of
Unteralterbach's packaging very closely in the coming months, as well
as opposing this every step of the way. If this actually makes it into
the NEW queue, I have no
Jo Shields dijo [Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:34:59PM +]:
Let's be very, very, very clear then.
This is a game where you play a paedophile. The aim is to rape local
little girls, whilst evading the authorities. Success is rewarded with
graphic scenes of sex with children, failure with being
Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org writes:
Jo Shields dijo [Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:34:59PM +]:
Let's be very, very, very clear then.
This is a game where you play a paedophile. The aim is to rape local
little girls, whilst evading the authorities. Success is rewarded with
graphic scenes of
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 05:39:33AM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote:
As far as I understand, we're all defining our position 2nd hand on
Bas' analysis.
Agreed.
And given the responses, my analysis obviously needs some explanation.
Thanks.
This game is technically very well done. It is a visual
Le Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:32:29 +,
'lesleyb' lesl...@herlug.org.uk a écrit :
I think they're illegal in the UK regardless.
These pictures (as they are described) are illegal under french
laws.
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:47:22AM -0500, Joseph Neal wrote:
Hey, all
I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
:(
The tone on that thread has been really respectful up until now; if
anyone does want to voice concern, please do maintain a very polite
tone. This is way too
2014-03-11 14:55 GMT+01:00 Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org:
The tone on that thread has been really respectful up until now; if
anyone does want to voice concern, please do maintain a very polite
tone. This is way too easy to get upset about (also, trigger warning on
the game and game
On 11/03/14 14:55, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:47:22AM -0500, Joseph Neal wrote:
Hey, all
I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
:(
The tone on that thread has been really respectful up until now; if
anyone does want to voice concern, please do
On 11/03/2014, Joseph Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
If you hate to do it, then please don't do it.
Several people have already objected but I hope there will be such a
resounding rejection that nobody considers submitting
2014-03-11 17:39 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Jończyk mat.jonc...@o2.pl:
There is a danger, if the Debian project falls prey to a moral panic, that it
will self-censor to the extent of producing a chilling effect upon itself.
This is not a moral panic. A real harm is being done.
According to statistics
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W dniu 11.03.2014 15:52, Sam Kuper pisze:
On 11/03/2014, Joseph Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
If you hate to do it, then please don't do it.
Several people have already objected
On 11/03/2014, Mateusz Jończyk mat.jonc...@o2.pl wrote:
W dniu 11.03.2014 15:52, Sam Kuper pisze:
On 11/03/2014, Joseph Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
According to statistics [2]
One in 20 children (4.8%) have experienced contact sexual abuse. This has
probably a devastating effect on
Am 11.03.2014 17:54, schrieb Miriam Ruiz:
Right now there is no need to make any decision at all, it is
in the hands of the FTP Masters, and we as a project trust them.
As far as I am aware there is not even the need for the FTP masters to
decide because there is no Debian developer who is
Le 11/03/2014 20:10, Sam Kuper a écrit :
My point was that if legal (in some jurisdictions) and literary
discussions of abuse are completely excluded from Debian, then an act
of censorship has been performed, which may itself be viewed as a real
- though different - harm.
No.
Deciding to not
On 11/03/2014, Thibaut Paumard thib...@debian.org wrote:
Le 11/03/2014 20:10, Sam Kuper a écrit :
My point was that if legal (in some jurisdictions) and literary
discussions of abuse are completely excluded from Debian, then an act
of censorship has been performed, which may itself be viewed
On 11/03/2014, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote:
Many people wouldn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. The
consequences of even showing sympathy for this type of package could
well have personal consequences for some people well into the future,
here is a typical example:
On 11/03/14 22:23, Sam Kuper wrote:
On 11/03/2014, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote:
Many people wouldn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. The
consequences of even showing sympathy for this type of package could
well have personal consequences for some people well into the
I honestly believe that almost none of those of us discusing the game
has even tried it (I haven't at least) and I don't think anyone who
hasn't even tested it can have a solid opinion. As far as I
understand, we're all defining our position 2nd hand on Bas' analysis.
Let's be very, very,
2014-03-11 23:34 GMT+01:00 Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org:
I honestly believe that almost none of those of us discusing the game
has even tried it (I haven't at least) and I don't think anyone who
hasn't even tested it can have a solid opinion. As far as I
understand, we're all defining our
Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org writes:
I honestly believe that almost none of those of us discusing the game
has even tried it (I haven't at least) and I don't think anyone who
hasn't even tested it can have a solid opinion. As far as I
understand, we're all defining our position 2nd hand on
Tobias Hansen than...@debian.org writes:
Am 11.03.2014 17:54, schrieb Miriam Ruiz:
Right now there is no need to make any decision at all, it is
in the hands of the FTP Masters, and we as a project trust them.
As far as I am aware there is not even the need for the FTP masters to
decide
As far as I understand, we're all defining our position 2nd hand on
Bas' analysis.
And given the responses, my analysis obviously needs some explanation.
This game is technically very well done. It is a visual novel, which
like a regular novel is intended to make the reader/player think
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