Re: Recent changes to wiki organisation

2019-09-09 Thread nodiscc
Hi Brian, I made these edits.

This page has acquired a section with a list of wiki pages. The links
are (in the main) merely repeats of existing links in other sections
of the page. I have tried to understand what purpose "Wiki pages"
serves and have come to the conclusion that it only distracts from the
pre-existing organised content.

A proper homepage/portal for Printing  should link to all
printing-related pages in my humble opinion.
The pre-existing, clean, organized links were not linking to all
relevant pages, so I added the FullSearch macro that lists all pages
in CategoryPrinter.
The proper solution is to add clean, descriptive links for each page
on the Printing portal, then remove the FullSearch.

The wiki list contains a number of pages with content that is dated
and positively misleading to a user using a recent Debian printing
system. What sort of impression is given by a LexmarkX2310 page that
conveys zero information?

Then those pages should be edited/cleaned of irrelevant content, or
just removed. The FullSearch serves as a reminder that these
low-quality pages are still there and should be cleaned up. Page creep
is one of the most important problems on the wiki (again, just my
opinion), sweeping them under the rug and pretending they don't
exist/hiding them will probably not help.

(yes, I think the user side of the wiki is generally in a bad way)

Also, scanning and printing are not
related; so why the link?

The https://wiki.debian.org/Scanner page? It contains CategoryPrinter
at the bottom, hence it is automatically listed by the FullSearch
macro. I agree this is wrong - the proper solution is to remove
CategoryPrinter from the scanner page.

I had intended reverting the page to Revision 24 but it seems more
sensible to avoid involving myself in a process I don't quite follow,
Instead, I will transfer the material I care about to a new page that
will be linked to from Printing.

Your PrintingOverview page is good, and is what the Printing page
should be, +/- these details:

 - All pages with CategoryPrinter (the ones that show up in the macro
on the Printing page) should be listed there. If you think some of
them should not, because they're not relevant, or low-quality, then
it's better to move them to another category, improve them, or remove
them completely (move relevant info to other pages if needed).
 - The syntax of page links is wrong according to
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/EditorGuide#Links, it should be
"PageName - Description of the page". If it hurts your eyes, it's
probably because the pages are not proprely named, and should be
renamed (eg. Thetexttopdffilter should probably be
"CUPSTextToPdfFilter - Short description of what the filter does",
etc)

I hope Printing and PrintingOverview pages could be merged again
(creating many pages where one could fit the purpose is what led the
wiki to the current "state"), "Printing overview" should be the first
and main section on the Printing page.

Please tell me what you would like to see on a proper landing page
about printing in Debian.

Cheers

Le lun. 9 sept. 2019 à 15:27, Brian Potkin  a écrit :
>
> A recent reorganisation of some of the wiki has resulted in a change
> to
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Printing
>
> This page has acquired a section with a list of wiki pages. The links
> are (in the main) merely repeats of existing links in other sections
> of the page. I have tried to understand what purpose "Wiki pages"
> serves and have come to the conclusion that it only distracts from the
> pre-existing organised content.
>
> The wiki list contains a number of pages with content that is dated
> and positively misleading to a user using a recent Debian printing
> system. What sort of impression is given by a LexmarkX2310 page that
> conveys zero information?  Also, scanning and printing are not
> related; so why the link?
>
> I had intended reverting the page to Revision 24 but it seems more
> sensible to avoid involving myself in a process I don't quite follow,
> Instead, I will transfer the material I care about to a new page that
> will be linked to from Printing.
>
> --
> Brian.
>



Recent changes to wiki organisation

2019-09-09 Thread Brian Potkin
A recent reorganisation of some of the wiki has resulted in a change
to

https://wiki.debian.org/Printing

This page has acquired a section with a list of wiki pages. The links
are (in the main) merely repeats of existing links in other sections
of the page. I have tried to understand what purpose "Wiki pages"
serves and have come to the conclusion that it only distracts from the
pre-existing organised content.

The wiki list contains a number of pages with content that is dated
and positively misleading to a user using a recent Debian printing
system. What sort of impression is given by a LexmarkX2310 page that
conveys zero information?  Also, scanning and printing are not
related; so why the link?

I had intended reverting the page to Revision 24 but it seems more
sensible to avoid involving myself in a process I don't quite follow,
Instead, I will transfer the material I care about to a new page that
will be linked to from Printing.

-- 
Brian.



Khuongdao

2019-09-09 Thread Khuong Dao


從我的 iPhone 傳送

Bug#859122: 31 DLAs missing from the website

2019-09-09 Thread Brian May
Holger Levsen  writes:

> the script disagrees on DLA 607-1 and 377-1 and indeed
> https://www.debian.org/lts/security/2016/dla-607 does not exist.
> while https://www.debian.org/lts/security/2016/dla-377 does (which
> matches debian-www.git)
>
> do you know what's up with DLA-607?

Oops. I looked at it, then forgot to finish.

See https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/merge_requests/222

Not sure why you referenced dla-377 - is there something wrong with this
one?
-- 
Brian May