Bug#971623: review and simplify the /devel/wnpp section
Hello pabs, Am 04.10.20 um 04:13 schrieb Paul Wise: > wnpp.debian.net is an unofficial service that could go away at any > moment if the Debian member sponsoring the domain leaves Debian or the > contributor providing the service decides to shut it down. yes you are right of course, that's no question. > I think it would be better to not rely on it for things that we don't > need to rely on it for and rely on it for things that aren't > implemented anywhere else. For me the question is "Need we this at all and in what way?" Thomas (Lange) and myself have spoken and discussed a lot about the structure of www.d.o and the first realization we came to was that the website has a really complicated and bloated structure that is hindering us in every small corner to make a visible progress in modernize and update the content. And if "we" (means the rather long time members) do it all on our own we also wont ever find new contributors for that because it's to complicated and to expensive to dig in. The solution for every big problem is to split of the big problem into smaller problems. Cutting out the currently implemented wnpp part would be one of the rather smaller problems on the road. We can and should discuss how we can do this. -- Regards Carsten Schoenert
Bug#971623: review and simplify the /devel/wnpp section
On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:45 AM Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > Having a look at both the resulting listings that we provide in > www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, and the ones provided in wnpp.debian.net, I > think maybe we could review our old approach and remove most of the > listings we were providing, and link to wnpp.debian.net instead. wnpp.debian.net is an unofficial service that could go away at any moment if the Debian member sponsoring the domain leaves Debian or the contributor providing the service decides to shut it down. I think it would be better to not rely on it for things that we don't need to rely on it for and rely on it for things that aren't implemented anywhere else. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Bug#971623: review and simplify the /devel/wnpp section
Package: www.debian.org User: www.debian@packages.debian.org Usertag: scripts Severity: normal Hi, we received the proposal to add listing of orphaned packages by popularity in this merge request: https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/merge_requests/553 I find the idea valuable, but the approach (linking to wnpp.debian.net) is very different from what we already have in /devel/wnpp section (we build some lists ourselves with the wnpp.pl script [1], using the data gathered by the 1ftpfiles script from the cron repo [2]. [1] https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/blob/master/english/devel/wnpp/wnpp.pl [2] https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/cron/-/blob/master/parts/1ftpfiles Having a look at both the resulting listings that we provide in www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, and the ones provided in wnpp.debian.net, I think maybe we could review our old approach and remove most of the listings we were providing, and link to wnpp.debian.net instead. This of course would require changes in the wml files in /devel/wnpp section, the Makefiles, and the scripts in the cron repo. What do you think? Kind regards, -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
