Re: Package count on Debian homepage

2015-02-22 Thread Riley Baird
 It think that statements on the homepage and on the why Debian? pages
 like Debian comes with over 37500 different pieces of software. are a
 bit misleading since newcomers will most likely interpret this as the
 number of software projects that are packaged within Debian. Counting
 the binary/non-source packages inflates the package count with
 debug/header/documentation packages.
 
 I think it would be more appropriate to put up a count of source
 packages. For example, in the Debian Administrator's handbook, there is
 the statement Furthermore, with more than 17,300 source packages, the
 available software can meet almost any need that one could have, whether
 at home or in the enterprise [1].

To be honest, I don't think that it will affect the potential user's decision 
much whether it says 37500 or 17300.


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Re: Should we mark #388141 as jessie-ignore?

2015-02-13 Thread Riley Baird
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:16:39 +0100
Tomas Pospisek t...@sourcepole.ch wrote:
 Am 12.02.2015 um 20:59 schrieb Riley Baird:
 
  Bug #388141 [RC] refers to the relicensing of the debian www pages.
  After contacting debian-www, it seems that there isn't much interest in
  fixing it.
 
 I interpret the relative silence in #388141 differently then you. I'd
 say that everybody is busy with doing other stuff. So if you want the
 state of affairs to change, just go after it, bit by bit. As you
 describe here:
 
  The next step would involve compiling a list of website
  lines which are still active yet which relicensing permission has not
  been received.
 
 And then just ask for permission, line by line.

Surprisingly not! Everyone who has been contacted has already been contacted. 
The reason for collecting these lines is that we need to determine whether the 
lines in question are copyrightable, and whether they are still in use.

 In the end I think it's work and if it should be accomplished then
 someone has to do that work. Since you are interested, just go and hit
 the work, it may well be that people will join or help you along the way.

I've always been happy to do the work, but I thought that access to the wiki 
databases was necessary to compile such a list. Or is it possible to compile 
such a list with just a user account on the wiki?


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Re: Should we mark #388141 as jessie-ignore?

2015-02-13 Thread Riley Baird
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:40:53 +
Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote:
 On 2015-02-12 19:59, Riley Baird wrote:
  In any case, even if there is interest in closing this bug, it is
  definitely more of a long-term thing and is unlikely to be fixed before
  the jessie release. Because of this, would it be okay to mark it as
  jessie-ignore?
 
 For reference, as per https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#tags , 
 setting -ignore tags is the purview of the Release Team, not maintainers 
 or debian-devel. Feel free to suggest such things, but please don't add 
 or remove any -ignore tags.

I won't. Thanks for letting me know.


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Fw: Re: Should we mark #388141 as jessie-ignore?

2015-02-13 Thread Riley Baird
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:47:53 -0800
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, Riley Baird wrote:
  In any case, even if there is interest in closing this bug, it is
  definitely more of a long-term thing and is unlikely to be fixed before
  the jessie release. Because of this, would it be okay to mark it as
  jessie-ignore?
 
 There's no point in marking bugs in psuedo packages jessie-ignore;
 they're ignored for the purpose of releasing jessie anyway.

Ah, I didn't know that.



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Should we mark #388141 as jessie-ignore?

2015-02-12 Thread Riley Baird
Hi,

Bug #388141 [RC] refers to the relicensing of the debian www pages.
After contacting debian-www, it seems that there isn't much interest in
fixing it. The next step would involve compiling a list of website
lines which are still active yet which relicensing permission has not
been received.

In any case, even if there is interest in closing this bug, it is
definitely more of a long-term thing and is unlikely to be fixed before
the jessie release. Because of this, would it be okay to mark it as
jessie-ignore?

Thanks,

Riley Baird


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Relicensing of debian-www pages

2015-02-05 Thread Riley Baird
Hi -www!

From #388141, it seems that Debian is in the process of relicensing the
www pages. So far, after contacting all of the contributors, most of
them have agreed to relicense but there are still some that have not
responded and it is unlikely that they will. Because of this, Stefano
Zacchiroli and Bradley M. Kuhn have devised a relicensing plan.[1]

It seems that the next step in this plan is to make a list of website
lines that are: 1/ still active, and 2/ for which we do *not* have
received permission to relicence.

Does this list already exist? If not, would anyone be interested in
making it?

Yours sincerely,

Riley Baird


[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=nobug=388141#356


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Bug#388141: Relicensing of Debian www pages

2015-01-23 Thread Riley Baird
On 24/01/15 00:44, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote:
 Riley Baird wrote at 17:16 (EST) on Thursday:
 A couple of years ago, you offered to assist Debian in the relicensing
 of its www pages. Has there been any progress on this?
 
 I remain willing to help, but I cannot take the lead on this issue.  If
 there's something specific that Debian needs help with to accomplish
 this task, I remain willing to help.

Thanks! Can you give me an idea of what Debian would need to do next to
accomplish this?


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Bug#388141: Relicensing of Debian www pages

2015-01-22 Thread Riley Baird
Hi Bradley,

A couple of years ago, you offered to assist Debian in the relicensing
of its www pages. Has there been any progress on this?

Yours thankfully,

Riley Baird


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Debian BTS robots.txt

2014-07-31 Thread Riley Baird
Hi -www!

I have noticed that the robots.txt of bugs.debian.org does not allow the
Wayback Machine to archive Debian's bugs.

It already allows 4 different search engines to view the pages, so I'd
imagine that there would be no objection to adding the Wayback Machine.

Yours sincerely,

Riley Baird


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Re: Debian BTS robots.txt

2014-07-31 Thread Riley Baird
On 31/07/14 17:38, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Riley Baird wrote:
 
 I have noticed that the robots.txt of bugs.debian.org does not allow the
 Wayback Machine to archive Debian's bugs.
 
 Please resend your mail to the maintainers of the Debian BTS.
 
 Debian BTS administrators ow...@bugs.debian.org
 

Okay, done.


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