Re: libxfont_2.0.1-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2016-11-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Nov  4, 2016 at 20:35:32 +0100, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:

> Hi Julien,
> 
> On Fri, 4 Nov 2016, Julien Cristau wrote:
> >>unless there is no new consent found in #798476, the policy is still
> >>valid and I have to reject your package:
> >>  E: libxfont source: no-human-maintainers
> >>
> >No, you very much don't "have to".  That lintian warning doesn't make
> >the package unsuitable for distribution, or use, this is *not* a good
> >enough reason to reject a package.
> 
> it is not only a warning, but a lintian error. It is against policy, where
> policy contains a "must". There is no consent to change policy.

I see no evidence of lack of consensus, but more a broken policy
process / lack of active policy maintainers.  I also don't believe NEW's
purpose is to enforce random policy "must" clauses that everyone
including ftp-master ignores the rest of the time, rather than
distributability and trying to avoid trivially (functionally) broken new
packages.  Could you explain what exactly is achieved by having a fake
Uploaders entry in NEW, that is dropped again as soon as the package is
accepted, just to comply with an inconsistently enforced requirement?

Cheers,
Julien



Re: libxfont_2.0.1-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2016-11-04 Thread Thorsten Alteholz

Hi Julien,

On Fri, 4 Nov 2016, Julien Cristau wrote:

unless there is no new consent found in #798476, the policy is still
valid and I have to reject your package:
  E: libxfont source: no-human-maintainers


No, you very much don't "have to".  That lintian warning doesn't make
the package unsuitable for distribution, or use, this is *not* a good
enough reason to reject a package.


it is not only a warning, but a lintian error. It is against policy, where 
policy contains a "must". There is no consent to change policy.
So from my point of view it is a good reason. But we already had that 
discussion ...


  Thorsten



Re: libxfont_2.0.1-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2016-11-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Nov  2, 2016 at 22:00:09 +, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:

> 
> Hi Timo,
> 
> unless there is no new consent found in #798476, the policy is still 
> valid and I have to reject your package:
>   E: libxfont source: no-human-maintainers
> 
No, you very much don't "have to".  That lintian warning doesn't make
the package unsuitable for distribution, or use, this is *not* a good
enough reason to reject a package.  Please refrain from causing such
busy work for you and maintainers, this is just useless...

Thanks,
Julien



Re: libxfont_2.0.1-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2016-10-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 18:00:08 +, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:

> 
> Hi Timo,
> 
> can you please take care of:
>  E: libxfont source: no-human-maintainers
> 
This is not new, it's how most debian-x packages are today, see
https://lintian.debian.org/tags/no-human-maintainers.html and bug
#798476, I don't believe this is a reason to reject.

Cheers,
Julien