RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Timed weight?

2002-09-11 Thread John Tolmachoff
>Now there's a sophisticated element to the test. You could key the time to the geographic region of the sender's IP range. Not much more work (since it's generally hard-coded) but makes the test useful for determining the time of day at the sender's location -- in theory anyway. Now that sounds

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Timed weight?

2002-09-11 Thread Madscientist
Now there's a sophisticated element to the test. You could key the time to the geographic region of the sender's IP range. Not much more work (since it's generally hard-coded) but makes the test useful for determining the time of day at the sender's location -- in theory anyway. Thoughts? _M ]--

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Timed weight?

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
>Only a suggestion, maybe I'm wrong: Can it be usefull to give a few >points for messages delivered in a certain time range?(for example >between 10.00 pm and 05.00 am) That is a good idea, and something that we have been giving some thought to. It would likely only be beneficial to a small gr

[Declude.JunkMail] Timed weight?

2002-09-11 Thread Gufler Markus
Hi Scott, Only a suggestion, maybe I'm wrong: Can it be usefull to give a few points for messages delivered in a certain time range?(for example between 10.00 pm and 05.00 am) A great part of the messages delivered in this time range are spam. The problem is that there are also newsletter and ot

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More encoded spam

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
> > All this is good I guess. Until we come up with some good examples of > > legitimate messages with text/html base64 then we won't completely > > settle the issue. It does seem that the evidence so far is strongly in > > favor of a spam/no-spam test for base64 encoded html. > >Any news on this

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist is still failing

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
>Scott I believe I found the problem ... before I took over looking after the >mail server, with all its quirks, I think a test version of an early >junkmail was loaded ... I found another config and junkmail file in the >imail root so I have a version of the config and junk files there and one i

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist is still failing

2002-09-11 Thread Bill Landry
Declude.exe should be in the IMail root and the config files in the IMail\Declude directory. Bill -Original Message- From: Doris Dean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist is still failing

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders <> (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread Sheldon Koehler
> Thanks for your replies. Good luck! Sheldon Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com Ten Forward Communications 360-457-9023 Nationwide access, neighborhood support! "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect." Ma

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders <> (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread Corey Travioli
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders <> (Kind of OT) ->It ain't gonna happen! So you had better start accepting null

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders <> (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread Mark Smith
FWIW, Exchange uses Null senders for their out of office notification and other "rules"/server side messages. If you turn that off in iMail you'll block these messages. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Sheldon Koehler > Sent: We

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist is still failing

2002-09-11 Thread Doris Dean
Scott I believe I found the problem ... before I took over looking after the mail server, with all its quirks, I think a test version of an early junkmail was loaded ... I found another config and junkmail file in the imail root so I have a version of the config and junk files there and one in \im

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders <> (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread Sheldon Koehler
> Is there any way to get an RFC repealed? I personally > would like to see an RFC instituted that makes sending mail from a null > sender a violation of RFC. It ain't gonna happen! So you had better start accepting null senders or find yourself blacklisted at www.rfc-ignorant.org. And then thin

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders <> (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
>Recently, Texas A&M University decided to institute some method for >checking to see if the sending mail server accepts mail from a null >sender. Ouch. :) Have you gotten listed in http://www.rfc-ignorant.org yet? >We set-up our Imail server to not accept null senders. I know, >I know, it's

[Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders <> (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread Corey Travioli
Hello, Recently, Texas A&M University decided to institute some method for checking to see if the sending mail server accepts mail from a null sender. We set-up our Imail server to not accept null senders. I know, I know, it's a violation of RFC but it seems to me that this RFC is archaic and s

AW: [Declude.JunkMail] More encoded spam

2002-09-11 Thread Gufler Markus
[X] I agree. > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Helpdesk > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. September 2002 18:54 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More encoded spam > > > on 9/5/02 9:23 PM, Madscientist wrot

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More encoded spam

2002-09-11 Thread Helpdesk
on 9/5/02 9:23 PM, Madscientist wrote: > All this is good I guess. Until we come up with some good examples of > legitimate messages with text/html base64 then we won't completely > settle the issue. It does seem that the evidence so far is strongly in > favor of a spam/no-spam test for base64 en

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Consistant spam

2002-09-11 Thread Sheldon Koehler
> Using the latest beta, you can set up a filter that would reject any E-mail > with "mx-man.net" in the headers. Thanks! I have not had much time this summer to follow the betas and the features you have been adding. Sheldon Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com Ten

[Declude.JunkMail] At least they're honest !

2002-09-11 Thread Frederick P. Squib, Jr.
Gave me a chuckle, thought I'd share Received: from mail.reallyfakedomain.com [64.158.31.171] by wpa.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.12) id A28419320042; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:34:28 -0400 Received: from heater (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.reallyfakedomain.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E2F4

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
>I bounce on RBLs only. I created an account called spam-bounce and setup and >Imail rule to delete any mail sent to that address. Then I set the bounce >email from address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that way if they come back >they are deleted by the system. Make sure you provide adequate info in your

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Troubles

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
>These are the whitelist entries: Was the E-mail addressed to multiple recipients, where it would have been whitelisted by one of the other users? Did you check the Declude JunkMail log file to see if there is an entry with information about which whitelist entry caused it to be whitelisted?

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning

2002-09-11 Thread Rick Davidson
I bounce on RBLs only. I created an account called spam-bounce and setup and Imail rule to delete any mail sent to that address. Then I set the bounce email from address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that way if they come back they are deleted by the system. Make sure you provide adequate info in your boun

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Troubles

2002-09-11 Thread Koree A. Smith
These are the whitelist entries: #Exceptions for [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST ANYWHERE[EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Troubles

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
>I have a few whitelists, but am wondering why this particular message was >whitelisted. I don't have anything in these headers that is >whitelisted. However, I noticed that the X-Rcpt-To header has a different >address in it than what mine is. I checked my whitelists, and *that* >address

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Troubles

2002-09-11 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; I think Declude looks at this: X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two possibilities: - @postino.ch is whitelisted - [EMAIL PROTECTED] is whitelisted. At least that is my understanding... Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kore

[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Troubles

2002-09-11 Thread Koree A. Smith
I have a few whitelists, but am wondering why this particular message was whitelisted. I don't have anything in these headers that is whitelisted. However, I noticed that the X-Rcpt-To header has a different address in it than what mine is. I checked my whitelists, and *that* address is not

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning

2002-09-11 Thread John Tolmachoff
I agree with Tom on Bounce. When I first implemented JunkMail, I would Bounce messages. I then got tired of dealing with all the failed Bounce. Now I hold and every couple of days I go through and delete all held messages over 5 days old. 5 Days is plenty of time for someone to complain they did

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning

2002-09-11 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Lower the weights of the noabuse/nopostmaster tests for one. I think the default is 5 for each. The noabuse/nopostmaster tests fail for most of the "big guys" (aol.com,earthlink.net,msn.com,etc,etc...) Or You might play by raising the weight of the other tests and trapping/bouncing on a higher WE