[Declude.JunkMail] SPF Records and Off-Network Customers

2004-09-11 Thread David Dodell
I have a customer who I host their domain. Up to last week, all of their email was sent through us using SMTP Auth. However, his local ISP started blocking port 25 outbound, so he is now forced to use the local ISP for sending his outbound email. In setting up his SPF records, it appears if I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Records and Off-Network Customers

2004-09-11 Thread Darin Cox
Yes. One of the flaws of SPF. However, you can also use a weaker SPF record that says basically that you don't know what mail server it is coming from. Not much point in that except to say that you're using SPF, though I suppose it might be possible that a particular mail admin might penalize

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Records and Off-Network Customers

2004-09-11 Thread Darin Cox
Yep...definitely shows that SPF has some growing to do, but the situation can improve with widespread adoption. For your hotel situation, you might try setting your mail server to accept SMTP AUTH traffic on port 587. That way if 25 is blocked but 587 is open you can continue to use your mail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Records and Off-Network Customers

2004-09-11 Thread David Dodell
Saturday, September 11, 2004, 7:37:21 AM, Darin Cox wrote: For your hotel situation, you might try setting your mail server to accept SMTP AUTH traffic on port 587. That way if 25 is blocked but 587 is open you can continue to use your mail server. I thought Imail only has the capability of

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Records and Off-Network Customers

2004-09-11 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: David Dodell [EMAIL PROTECTED] For your hotel situation, you might try setting your mail server to accept SMTP AUTH traffic on port 587. That way if 25 is blocked but 587 is open you can continue to use your mail server. I thought Imail only has the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: Help, I have been blacklisted

2004-09-11 Thread Richard Farris
My log files have trippled in size the last 3 days. I have taken out several IPs to send for that were questionable and still I think I am hijacked but I cannot figure out where it is coming from...I have no viruses (except in the virus folder) so I must be hijacked.. Is there a way I can tell

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: Help, I have been blacklisted

2004-09-11 Thread Darin Cox
Why don't you go in reverse? Take the all out to see if it stops. If it doesn't, your hacked and you can probably put the IPs back in and deal with that issue. If it does stop, them start putting them back in, one at a time until you see a problem. Darin. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: Help, I have been blacklisted

2004-09-11 Thread Matt
Is there a way I can tell where the emails are coming from..I guess I can keep taking out IPs until it stops? That is not the way to guess correctly. You are either an open relay, or one of your accounts was hacked, or your server was hacked. Blocking by IP would be grossly innefective and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: Help, I have been blacklisted

2004-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
My log files have trippled in size the last 3 days. Quick action is key to hijacking. The spammer has already gotten his money's worth from your service. Three days of spamming before getting kicked off is excellent for a spammer. They are happy with 12 hours if they can get it. Entering

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Records and Off-Network Customers

2004-09-11 Thread Matt
I believe that SPF is almost all hype and hardly any value to speak of. It was originally intended to authenticate hosts, but spammers quickly caught on and started giving themselves SPF records ( http://netscape.com.com/2100-1009_22-5357269.html?part=netscapesubj=technewstag=mynetscape ). I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: Help, I have been blacklisted

2004-09-11 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Quickly contact Declude for a trial of Declude Hijack, which is a Declude product that just happens to be designed to stop this. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Records and Off-Network Customers

2004-09-11 Thread Paul Navarre
I believe that SPF is almost all hype and hardly any value to speak of. I think this is a bit harsh. While SPF is certainly not the answer to all of my prayers, it has some value. It was originally intended to authenticate hosts, but spammers quickly caught on and started giving

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: Help, I have been blacklisted

2004-09-11 Thread Richard Farris
I actually saw it this happening but didnt know what was taking all my resources...and I am not really that technical so it was just trial and error and help from you folks...I took out the proxy IP in my allowable for SMTP and everything seems to be back the way I am used toI guess I will

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: Help, I have been blacklisted

2004-09-11 Thread Richard Farris
Sorry for the typos previously but this is what we figured out.. I have a proxy server that I use for content filtering... I had its IP address in my allowable SMTP pool They were running thru the proxy back to the Imail server... I have no idea how they figured that out since my Imail server is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 100% CPU

2004-09-11 Thread Dave Doherty
Oops, sorry. I missed all the other traffic under a different subject. You got some excellent advice here. Good detective work, Richard! -Dave - Original Message - From: Richard Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 12:19 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Records and Off-Network Customers

2004-09-11 Thread Darin Cox
As you mentioned, SPF Pass is pretty useless, but SPF Fail is _very_ useful. It is one of the best and most authoritative tests against forging spam, as they generally (hopefully!)would not be sending from the mail server(s) used by that domain, thus would fail. Properly implemented and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I believe there is a HF for Imail 8.05. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danny K Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread Danny K
John, I installed the latest patch Hotfix 3 and the problem still persists. I just powered down the computer and powered back up just in case. SMTP service shut down just a minute after starting. I can ping the DNS server just fine so I don't think it is dns issue. Any other ideas? Thanks for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I am not the best at troubleshooting Imail, but here goes. What does the Queue Manager service do? Do you have the SMTP service set to auto restart by way of the services MMC? Open Task manager and click on the processes tab. Then, click on View. Add columns Thread count and Handle count. With

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Hve you tried stoping Imails monitor service to see if that is causing the problem. I know it has issues with monitoring web mail service on certain servers. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danny K Sent: Saturday,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread Danny K
Queue Manager is still on when the SMTP service stops. Yes, I have SMTP service set to auto restart. I'm watching Handles and Threads and it is staying around 230 Handles and 17 Threads. I will keep an eye on it and see if this is the average or if it changes. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Danny K [EMAIL PROTECTED] I installed the latest patch Hotfix 3 and the problem still persists. I just powered down the computer and powered back up just in case. SMTP service shut down just a minute after starting. I can ping the DNS server just fine so

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread Danny K
The application log does not show any problems. The System Log says: Here is the error: The IMail SMTP Server service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 62 time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 0 milliseconds: No action. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread Danny K
Anyone know what the latest interim release of declude is and the link to it? I want make sure I have the latest and if not try it just in case. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 5:14 PM To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread Bennie
Danny, Did you move your Imail to a new computer when you upgraded. I had this happen to us a while back with the 7.0 release of Imail. Finally called IMail support and they checked some of my ip settings and found some conflicts. They corrected them then and there and have had no problems

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service stopping

2004-09-11 Thread Danny K
We have not made any changes to the server in awhile so don't remember what we did the last time we upgraded. Everything has been working fine up until last night. I will call them first thing Monday. Thank you -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf