[Declude.JunkMail] Deleting emails based solely on Sniffer?

2005-04-14 Thread Joey Proulx
Can someone please explain to me why, if an email is flagged as spam by Sniffer, I shouldn't just delete it outright? Are there instances where Sniffer is wrong? Or is this the way you all use it already? Reason I ask is that I have Sniffer setup with a weight of 10...and I hold messages

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Deleting emails based solely on Sniffer?

2005-04-14 Thread Don Schreiner
If you delete, you should delete based on achieving a minimum weight accumulated. Sniffer on occasion may detect something as a false positive. For example, it may misinterpret a legitimate e-mail as Spam with an attachment based on conversion of the attachment to characters and a series

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Deleting emails based solely on Sniffer?

2005-04-14 Thread Nick
On 14 Apr 2005 at 8:50, Joey Proulx wrote: Hi Joey, Can someone please explain to me why, if an email is flagged as spam by Sniffer, I shouldn't just delete it outright? Are there instances where Sniffer is wrong? Or is this the way you all use it already? Well from my perspective the beauty

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Deleting emails based solely on Sniffer?

2005-04-14 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Joey Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can someone please explain to me why, if an email is flagged as spam by Sniffer, I shouldn't just delete it outright? Are there instances where Sniffer is wrong? Or is this the way you all use it already? Reason I ask is that

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Deleting emails based solely on Sniffer?

2005-04-14 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Joey Proulx writes: Can someone please explain to me why, if an email is flagged as spam by Sniffer, I shouldn't just delete it outright? Are there instances where Sniffer is wrong? Or is this the way you all use it already? A couple of things Sniffer is very effective but not perfect close.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Deleting emails based solely on Sniffer?

2005-04-14 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, April 14, 2005, 8:50:12 AM, Joey wrote: JP Can someone please explain to me why, if an email is flagged as spam by JP Sniffer, I shouldn't just delete it outright? Are there instances where JP Sniffer is wrong? Or is this the way you all use it already? JP Reason I ask is that I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Something new with v 2.0.6

2005-04-14 Thread Frederick Samarelli
Title: Message The Space was the issue. Added the "-" and all is well. - Original Message - From: Matt To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Something new with v 2.0.6 Fred,Those are all

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Deleting emails based solely on Sniffer?

2005-04-14 Thread Scott Fisher
I certainly wouldn't change my Sniffer weighting based on a 419 scam. The 419/Lotteries tend to be some of the more difficult spams to catch. Many of them come from legitate mail servers so they won't be on any blacklists and they won't score on technical tests. In your case I'd bet the -5 came

[Declude.JunkMail] Negative weighting filters to reduce false positives

2005-04-14 Thread Darin Cox
We just started something I've been thinking about for a while: Negative weight tests to offset specific test failures for well-known domains. For example, a large number of false positives we see are from Earthlink, Mindspring, Sprint, Verizon, etc. Now you may be thinking, of course,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weighting filters to reduce false positives

2005-04-14 Thread Greg Birdsall
This is pretty interesting, but one question What is your hold weight set to? It seems that you are assigning a huge negative value for the first test, and much smaller for the other two, nay insight as to how you came up with these values? We are running into some of the same problems

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weighting filters to reduce false positives

2005-04-14 Thread Scott Fisher
I myself have pondered why I am even running the RFCI-noabuse and RFCI-nopostmaster test. The NoAbuse misfired 23.6% of the time. The NoPostmaster misfired 12.7% of the time. Due to the underperformance, I weight each test 5 (hold at 200). Thetest failures are who's who of ISP / webmail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weighting filters to reduce false positives

2005-04-14 Thread Nick
Darin Cox wrote: Hi Darin - We just started something I've been thinking about for a while: Negative weight tests to offset specific test failures for well- known domains. For example, a large number of false positives we see are from Earthlink, Mindspring, Sprint, Verizon, etc. Well here

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weighting filters to reduce false positives

2005-04-14 Thread Darin Cox
Sorry...should've mentioned our weighting scale. We hold at 100 and delete at 300. Those were just examples, however. The point is to weight them exactly opposite of your current weight for those tests. Darin. - Original Message - From: Greg Birdsall To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weighting filters to reduce false positives

2005-04-14 Thread Darin Cox
Well you make a good point on the value of NOABUSE and NOPOSTMASTER. NOABUSE hits on about 18% of incoming mail, while NOPOSTMASTER hits on about 10%. Most of the false positives we see from them can be eliminated with these filters, extending their usefulnessso there's still value in