Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread Matt
Robert, I think that did a good amount of research and I do in fact have my facts straight.  It appears rather that you just simply didn't read my message fully. At this moment, SPLA isn't a good deal for me, though I recognize that in some situations it can be. I like to buy full retail ver

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread Matt
Actually, SPLA is what fuels part of that market.  There are many datacenters out there that will basically lease you a server for a fixed price and give you unlimited everything and all hardware, hardware support (and some software support), and they all do SPLA for Windows boxes.  They approa

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread Robert E. Spivack
Unfortunately not.  Remember, that’s a shared sql server account – not a dedicated sql server for $9.95/month.  If somebody wants to put 500 sql accounts on a single Celeron server, well, caveat emptor.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread Robert E. Spivack
Matt, get the facts before you “rant”.   If you are running a business then you should be adhering to the rules.  I can’t believe you have been hosting sites/email services for so long and not been aware of SPLA.   I think your rant is totally offbase.  Let me give you (and others lurki

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread John T \(Lists\)
On the one hand, if it that was upheld as true as you say and enforceable, do you think that would help get rid of all those fly-by-night hosting companies out there offering unlimited this and unlimited that with a SQL backend for $9.95 per month?   John T eServices For You   "Seek

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread Matt
John, I haven't looked at the SQL Server license, but the Windows 2003 Server Standard Edition license states:     "Renting, leasing, or lending the Software (including providing commercial hosting services) is also prohibited." It makes no difference as to who's software you are using on to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread Matt
Craig, I don't know whether or not you figured this out, but it is somewhat rare that someone from Declude posts to this list, and most of the conversations are between fellow administrators and can span a wide range of topics.  Even you are guilty of this:     http://www.mail-archive.com/dec

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Um requesting read receipts of a list is un-professional.   If you notice in the subject line the OT: you can then if you desire to create a rule in your Outlook based on that.   John T eServices For You   "Seek, and ye shall find!"   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread John T \(Lists\)
That is where the question comes in. I am not hosting a client or providing a client a service on a server.   I have listened in on a conversation between a big client of mine and a lawyer and the lawyer’s thought is that I am providing a package product, in one case a web and e-mail ho

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread Matt
The popular understanding is exactly the opposite in fact, but even Microsoft's own reps don't always tell it the same way. The fact is that anyone hosting "clients" is violating the standard EULA on Windows since they made that change, and SPLA is required.  Whether or not that is enforceable

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread Craig Edmonds
um I thought this was a junk mail list aimed at discussing Declude?   I did not know it was to rant about Microsoft stuff?   Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Matt, my understanding is that is the server is hosting multiple web sites for multiple clients, and therefore is not dedicated to any one client, the SPLA does not apply. If a server is dedicated for one client, whether that server be for web sites, SQL, ACT, Quickbooks, whatever, then th

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Why Are these Messages Not being scanned?

2006-03-11 Thread Matt
David, I would verify that the Declude logs show these messages.  If it is the issue with formatting, then Declude should still be logging them.  My guess is that this didn't fail enough tests to trigger HOLD, DELETE or ROUTETO on your system, and due to the headers probably appearing in the b

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-11 Thread Matt
Shayne (and Kevin), Rant = on I see now that under the SPLA program, they seem to indicate in a very round-about way that you have to use SPLA, in fact, you have to purchase a separate license per processor for anonymous access to IIS over the Internet.  What a crock of s#*t that is.  This is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Why Are these Messages Not being scanned?

2006-03-11 Thread David Dodell
John, good point, didn't "catch" that ... yep, Declude is missing them all ... -Original Message-From: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent 3/11/2006 10:25:47 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Why Are these Messages Not being scanned?This may not be the prob

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Why Are these Messages Not being scanned?

2006-03-11 Thread John Carter
This may not be the problem, but I don't remember seeing TO, FROM etc lines appearing before the "Received: from" line, except in msgs sent internal to Imail. Every header I've seen started with Received:. (I guess it can happen. Does here.) Could this be a case of broken client/headers messin

[Declude.JunkMail] Why Are these Messages Not being scanned?

2006-03-11 Thread David Dodell
For several days I've been getting spam from several ip's basically all looking the same in the headers and body, except for the received IP address. What I can't figure out, why is it not being scanned by Declude. I normally see in all of my message headers, the declude scan information