Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Don Brown
- DB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell DB> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) DB> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:26 AM DB> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com DB> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? DB> David, DB> Are comp

Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> I would not attempt to convert/port from any other existing language > (unless I had experts in both languages), I would simply start with > the existing specifications and develop original code (in my > programming language of choice) to those specs... You're quite right! And it doe

Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Bill Landry
ssage - From: "Sanford Whiteman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bill Landry" Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:13 PM Subject: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? Razor has always been "free", even during that very short timeframe of l

Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> Razor has always been "free", even during that very short timeframe > of like 6 months where they were considering charging for usage if > you were using Razor in a revenue based model. However, as you > probably know, that was very short lived and quickly reverted back > to just plain

RE: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread David Barker
: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? David, There was quite a discussion about three weeks ago about this, as a number of critical posts were not making it to the list, but other posts were. It could be that you were having intermittent problems with the list, but it

Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Darin Cox
censored. To say Sandy was being paranoid is to belittle the observations of Sandy and a number of others. Darin. - Original Message - From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:50 PM Subject: RE: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 -

Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> There was a time period of about 3 days when the lists were having > problems on our end as we were in the middle of a server migration / > email server migration / and a major office relocation. I am sure it > is this time you are referring too. But to be honest Sandy > "censorship"

Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Bill Landry
I thought this was due to a glitch in the transition from IMail to SmarterMail at Declude. Bill - Original Message - From: "Sanford Whiteman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "David Barker" Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Dec

Re: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Bill Landry
ff and their capabilities than I do, so I'll admit that I could be wrong... Bill - Original Message - From: "Sanford Whiteman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bill Landry" Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:47 PM Subject: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commto

RE: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread David Barker
little too paranoid :) David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:50 PM To: David Barker Subject: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? > If you have l

Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> If you have logs you can send me I will be glad to look at what > happened for you. I will see if I have them around. Main question is, "Why were posts getting silently dropped about a month or so ago?" There's no question that they were getting dropped. Other people reported this as wel

Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> Just as SA and other spam apps have built in support for these > freely available and open source spam services, nothing would have > prevented Declude from doing the same. Don't agree. Have you ever looked at the Rhyolite lists and looked at Vernon's opinion of commercial DCC sofware

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Bill Landry
ndry" Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? I guess what I am getting at here is that there are lots of "free" choices/options/solutions available out there without having to resort to pricey and convolute

RE: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread David Barker
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:06 PM To: David Barker Subject: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? > This is totally untrue and unsubstantiated. We have NEVER censored > these lists. I can "s

RE: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread David Barker
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:06 PM To: David Barker Subject: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? > This is totally untrue and unsubstantiated. We have NE

Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> This is totally untrue and unsubstantiated. We have NEVER censored > these lists. I can "substantiate" using mail server logs from 3 successive days that posts that contained purely technical content were passed to the list exploder, while messages that contained passages questioning

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread David Barker
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:43 PM To: Bill Landry Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? > I guess what I am getting at here is that there are lots of "free" > choices/options/soluti

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> I guess what I am getting at here is that there are lots of "free" > choices/options/solutions available out there without having to > resort to pricey and convoluted options like CommTouch. Bill, to be fair, DCC is plenty convoluted itself, if you follow the requirement to run your

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Bill Landry
PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? Sound like Cloudmark (http://www.cloudmark.com/) and their free Razor service (http://razor.sourceforge.net/), which I have already been using successfully for a few years

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread David Barker
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:41 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? Is this how the AV part of the program works and will it run when the other AV scanners run or is it only run once and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Bill Landry
ly 19, 2006 9:33 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? Darrell, 1. Are components of the message hashed and some type of hash is sent to CommTouch for analysis? RPD extracts 2 types of patterns from the message, Distribution Patterns (from the header), and St

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread David Barker
www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:26 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? David, Are components of the message

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Nick Hayer
: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 7:32 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? Also, to piggy back on this - we would like to know exactly how this works. Is something downloaded to your system is it DNS based etc? Darrell

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread tical
10:11 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? Darrell, It is not a DNS test. Commtouch analyzes large volumes of Internet traffic in real time. New spam and Malware outbreaks are identified as soon as they emerge, and recorded in the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 7:32 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? Also, to piggy back on this - we would like to know exactly how this works. Is something downloaded to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread David Barker
@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ? Also, to piggy back on this - we would like to know exactly how this works. Is something downloaded to your system is it DNS based etc? Darrell

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-19 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: "Scott Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 - Commtouch trial ?

2006-07-18 Thread Scott Fisher
-David, Just curious is there a free one-month test drive option for CommTouch or something similiar? As one of those pesky non-ISP's the $195 a year is pretty reasonable, but I'd really like to test drive it before I buy it. Not to be offensive, but I have no belief of the "100% no false pos