Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
Thanks all for the various
suggestions. Agreed- combo is the way to use that test, for sure. A
bit OT, but what is the popular and accurate DUL database these days? How
accurate is fiveten at DUL lookups?
From: [EMAIL
You're making an assumption that everyone uses
Commtouch.
Darin.
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From: chris
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
Guys, Commtouch hasnt
missed any, stop making things hard
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chrisSent:
Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:15 PMTo:
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture
spam
Guys, Commtouch
hasnt missed any, stop making things hard on
yourselves..
Chris
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
You're making an assumption that everyone uses Commtouch.
Darin.
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From: chris
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, October
12, 2006 9:15 AM
Subject
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006
10:11 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
A one time cost of 195.00 is not a large
portion of your revenue and it is your option to not implement this or
not
Chris
@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
...and give a large part of our revenue to
Commtouch?
Provide a feasible way to justify the
additional costs for our existing customers and service contracts!
THEN we could talk about Commtouch.
BTW: even if it's hard work
:
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture
spam
A one time cost of
195.00 is not a large portion of your revenue and it is your option to not
implement this or not
Chris
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chrisSent: Thursday,
October 12, 2006 4:13 PMTo:
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture
spam
Oops, I meant implement
this or not..
Chris
Asaro
Technical Support
Engineer
Declude
: Thursday, October 12, 2006
9:57 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
...and give a large part of our revenue to
Commtouch?
Provide a feasible way to justify the
additional costs for our existing customers and service contracts!
THEN we could talk
f the hold
weight.
Darin.
- Original Message -
From: chris
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
No, I am making the
assumption you will not have to deal with anymore picture spam if you use
Commtou
and scale all tests as a percentage of the hold
weight.
Darin.
- Original Message -
From: chris
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
No, I am making the
assumption you will not have to deal with anymore pic
Of course those of us who are small ISPs don't even
have the option.
Bill
dfn Systems
- Original Message -
From:
chris
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:15
AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture
spam
Guys
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
A one time cost of 195.00 is not a large
portion of your revenue and it is your option to not implement this or
not
Chris
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
You're making an assumption that everyone uses Commtouch.
Darin.
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From: chris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, October
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.declude.com
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006
11:52 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
Chris,
According to
Decludes web site, any
and scale all tests as a percentage of the hold
weight.
Darin.
- Original Message -
From: chris
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
No, I am making the
assumption you will not have to deal with
On Oct 12, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Dave Beckstrom wrote:
According to Declude’s web site, any business that provides email
to customers can’t use commtouch.
If the above is true, and since Declude provides e-mail to some of
it's customers (see http://www.declude.com/site/ms.htm), shouldn't
@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
A one time cost of 195.00 is not a large
portion of your revenue and it is your option to not implement this or
not
Chris
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Thursday
:11 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
A one time cost of 195.00 is not a large
portion of your revenue and it is your option to not implement this or
not
Chris
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Message -
From: chris
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
The option is there,
lets not kid ourselves, for you issue is cost, I can understand
that
..
Chris
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto
,
October 12, 2006
1:16 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
Chris, you
need to learn what your
company is doing.
As a
hosting service provider, I am
specifically prevented from using CommTouch unless I want to spend
several
thousand dollars using
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:19 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
Let me jump in here for a moment.
Chris, CommTouch has a very high false positive rate (around 2% based on
what I saw, but those
David,
Normally I SKIPEXT JPG in virus.cfg.
Would I have to remove that line to use this?
- Original Message -
From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
Hey guys, here
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Fisher
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:37 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
David,
Normally I SKIPEXT JPG in virus.cfg.
Would I have to remove that line to use this?
- Original Message -
From: David
Matt wrote:
Let me jump in here for a moment.
You guys should have made a deal with Pete instead of CommTouch.
Sniffer blows it out of the water and he has no licensing
restrictions. IMO of course.
mine too! Sniffer does a very good job..
-Nick
---This E-mail came from the
You guys should have made a deal with Pete instead of CommTouch. Sniffer
blows it out of the water and he has no licensing restrictions. IMO of
course.
Matt
Matt,
They should have made a deal with Pete and done it so as to keep the cost
down. At $295 a year it wasn't priced
CommTouch catches them all, I have a
filter that can add some weight to image based spam, it may be able to push it
over the threshold and at least quarantine it for you.
Chris Asaro
Technical Support Engineer
Declude
Your Email security is our business
866.332.5833toll free
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
CommTouch catches them all, I have a
filter that can add some weight to image based spam, it may be able to push it
over the threshold and at least quarantine it for you.
Chris Asaro
Technical Support Engineer
Declude
PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
Thanks Chris. CommTouch definitely
seems to have promise. But for now, Id like to experiment with the
filter. Is this something we can have access to?
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
Sure thing, by default
I think you will see the weight of 3, it pretty much will give anything imaged
based this score. I would keep it to under 8 to reduce false positives,
but there is room to play
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006
1:39 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
You should note that this doesn't just catch image spam, but
all email with images. So, the weight should be extremely low, if used
Cox
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006
1:39 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
You should note that this doesn't just catch image spam, but
all email with images. So, the weight should be extremely low, if used at
all, due to the large % of false
I combo thegraphics hit (jpg, gif or png)
with:
1. bad DNS - None or timeout
2. bad language (eastern European iso-8859-2)
or Cyrillic (koi8-r or iso-8859-5), etc
3. cmdspace
4. good DUL IP lists/tests
5. having forged your local
domain.
I still get 5-10 a day. It is a pain.
-
Of Scott
Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006
12:49 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam
I combo thegraphics hit (jpg, gif or png) with:
1. bad DNS - None or timeout
2. bad language (eastern European iso-8859-2) or
Cyrillic
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Scott FisherSent:
Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:49 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture
spam
I combo thegraphics hit
(jpg, gif or png) with:
1. bad DNS - None or
timeout
2. bad language
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