Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-08 Thread Nick Hayer
Ta-dah! Easy as world peace. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - Matt wr

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2006-03-08 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi Sandy Sanford Whiteman wrote: Andrew, I like your workaround with the Program Alias. However, I think that instead, if people are willing to wait a few weeks to a month, I can find time to put out a full-fledged external test for Declude that does much the same thing,

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2006-03-07 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
D*.SMD file (which can be any filename) you can just call: smtp32.exe Qxxx.SMD and IMail will queue it up immediately. Ta-dah! Easy as world peace. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:13 PMTo:

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2006-03-07 Thread Matt
t call: smtp32.exe Qxxx.SMD and IMail will queue it up immediately. Ta-dah! Easy as world peace. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:13 PM To: Declude

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2006-03-04 Thread John T \(Lists\)
I think the underlying problem as has been discussed on this list is that an SPF FAIL should not be relied upon as an outright rejection, rather used as part of a weighting system. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2006-03-04 Thread Matt
I'm not aware of any mail server that supports the Sender Rewriting Scheme. It's certainly a fine idea, but the real issue is that the SPF implementation has issues with forwarded E-mail, and they are seeking to have mail servers correct their shortcoming. It may be a very long-time in

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread Nick Hayer
The problem is not anything I am doing - it with SPF itself. By design forwarded email will bounce if the receiving MTA is configed that way. Even if I whitelist the emails they will bounce... Let me explain - user@Adelphia.net send an email to user@greenmountainhealth.com which is an alias

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2006-03-04 Thread Matt
Real-world issues include working around bad implementation, such as surfglobal.net not configuring their server to reject messages that fail SPF. SPF has many real-world issues. SRS is novel, but it is impractical since no one supports it (that I am aware of), and it certainly won't be

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread george kulman
Nick, What I've done, and I can't be sure its working, is to set up my client's SPF records like this: v=spf1 ip4:[my ip mx range] ip4:[client ip mx range] mx ~all The range format is nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/nn I haven't had complaints about SPF rejects. George -Original Message- From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread george kulman
@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - The problem is not anything I am doing - it with SPF itself. By design forwarded email will bounce if the receiving MTA is configed that way. Even if I whitelist the emails they will bounce... Let me explain - user

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2006-03-04 Thread Nick Hayer
Matt wrote: Real-world issues include working around bad implementation, such as surfglobal.net not configuring their server to reject messages that fail SPF. SRS is a work around - and I'm simply asking if anyone has implemented it on an Imail/Declude platform. Kindly stay on topic I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 12:27 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - The problem is not anything I am doing - it with SPF itself. By design forwarded email will bounce if the receiving MTA is configed that way. Even if I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread Matt
Someone could write a plug-in or Declude could be modified to handle this, or IMail could be modified to handle this (and then Declude would probably need to be updated to handle what IMail changed). Why implement a work around in a standards compliant platform in order to deal with a flawed

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread george kulman
Hear hear. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 4:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - Someone could write a plug