RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers using virus infected computers

2004-07-19 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Um, Bagle-AG infected computers were seen sending spam out 12 hours after the virus was first detected in the wild. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Nice

AW: [Declude.JunkMail] My whitelist not working correctly

2004-07-19 Thread Guhl, Markus \(LDS\)
hi peter, according to the manual it should work: To whitelist an E-mail address, add a line WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file (replacing [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the address you wish to whitelist). You can also whitelist all mail from a specific domain by

[Declude.JunkMail] Regular Expressions?

2004-07-19 Thread Evans Martin
Can you use regular expressions in Declude filter definitions? Thanks, Evans Martin --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] My whitelist not working correctly

2004-07-19 Thread Peter Lowish
Tks Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guhl, Markus (LDS) Sent: Monday, 19 July 2004 8:05 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] My whitelist not working correctly hi peter, according to the manual it should

[Declude.JunkMail] maybe a silly question

2004-07-19 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
Hi If i put a [ spam ] marking i subject line at a certain weight level in the global.cfg how will this interrupt with the per domain settings? Which wil run first Benny --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] maybe a silly question

2004-07-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
If i put a [ spam ] marking i subject line at a certain weight level in the global.cfg how will this interrupt with the per domain settings? Which wil run first The global.cfg file is used for outgoing E-mail, whereas the per-domain settings are used for incoming E-mail, so this would only be

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Regular Expressions?

2004-07-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
Can you use regular expressions in Declude filter definitions? No. We have been considering adding them, but the main drawback would be the potential for making the filters much slower. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] maybe a silly question

2004-07-19 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
The global.cfg file is used for outgoing E-mail, whereas the per-domain settings are used for incoming E-mail, so this would only be an issue if an E-mail was sent to one of the per-domain domains *and* an external user. In this case, [ spam ] would be added to the subject, and any

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF Text Record Help Needed

2004-07-19 Thread Don Schreiner
I need help understanding the correct SPF text record for a customer domain . I have read the archives, been to the pobox site and read and still not absolutely certain. We allow some customers to SMTP relay from their dedicated IP and also from their e-mail Contact Form via their web site - we

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] maybe a silly question

2004-07-19 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
Neither runs first. The actions are handled after all the tests are run. Declude JunkMail then goes through each recipient, and handles the actions for all the tests failed for each recipient. If the first recipient is a local user, and the second one is a remote user, the local

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] maybe a silly question

2004-07-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
domain.com is on local server running the tests domain.com has also per domain settings that differs for the test running for all the domains on the same server In this case, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I'm assuming you don't own the domain.com domain -- the RFCs request that people use

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] maybe a silly question

2004-07-19 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
In this case, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I'm assuming you don't own the domain.com domain :-) would loved to own that but no I am not -- the RFCs request that people use example.com for examples) will use the settings in the \IMail\Declude\example.com\$default$.JunkMail file. Ok

[Declude.JunkMail] GUI

2004-07-19 Thread Barry @ CPHZ
We have been watching the speculation on how and if we should provide a Graphical User Interface for the management of our software and after an internal discussion last week we would appreciate some feedback so that we begin an evaluation. If you could complete a very short (5 questions)

[Declude.JunkMail] Getting rid of old Declude JunkMail headers

2004-07-19 Thread Brad Morgan
Is there any way to get rid of old Declude JunkMail headers? In particular, the WEIGHT* headers which I'm using in my Imail rules to separate the spam from the rest of the mail. If I get an email from (or that passed through) another Declude user, then I sometimes find an old header that no

[Declude.JunkMail] Types of Filters

2004-07-19 Thread Chris Patterson
I have a myfilter test that has been working quite well but is growing too large. I want to break these down into body, subject and header filters so it narrows down where to look (as opposed to logs). Any ideas which other filter tests are recognized by declude? I tried a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Types of Filters

2004-07-19 Thread Rick Davidson
Its HEADERS Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Chris Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:05 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Types of Filters I have a myfilter test that has been

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Types of Filters

2004-07-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have a myfilter test that has been working quite well but is growing too large. I want to break these down into body, subject and header filters so it narrows down where to look (as opposed to logs). Any ideas which other filter tests are recognized by declude? I tried a HEADERCONTAINS

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Regular Expressions?

2004-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Can you use regular expressions in Declude filter definitions? RegEx is not supported within Declude itself, but if you use our SPAMC32 (see sig), you implicitly have access to the whole Perl RegEx engine. It might be more labor than you've budgeted for, but it's very useful for custom

[Declude.JunkMail] Sender 'Reverse Account Verification' ??

2004-07-19 Thread R. Lee Heath
When an email is attempted delivery and account does not exist, it bounces... Can this be 'reverse checked' at delivery by Declude? Wouldn't it make sense BEFORE an email is delivered, that the origin or sender account be verified as existing? Maybe this would take a while in the processes, but

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Types of Filters

2004-07-19 Thread Chris Patterson
That did it, thanks for all of the replies!! Thanks, Chris Patterson, CCNA Network Engineer -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Types of Filters I have a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sender 'Reverse Account Verification' ??

2004-07-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
When an email is attempted delivery and account does not exist, it bounces... Can this be 'reverse checked' at delivery by Declude? No -- because more and more people that have that ability (with other programs) are reporting that it doesn't work as well as they would like. And, some

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude vs iMail

2004-07-19 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Does Declude actually place messages, besides those that make it through, in the folder/mailbox or does it deliver to iMail with a suggestion (?) of which folder to place the message in? Example: SPAMCOPMAILBOX spam TIA, Rod -- Roderick A. Anderson Project Manager Technology

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude vs iMail

2004-07-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
Does Declude actually place messages, besides those that make it through, in the folder/mailbox or does it deliver to iMail with a suggestion (?) of which folder to place the message in? Example: SPAMCOPMAILBOX spam With the MAILBOX action, Declude JunkMail tells IMail to deliver the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude vs iMail

2004-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Does Declude actually place messages, besides those that make it through, in the folder/mailbox or does it deliver to iMail with a suggestion (?) of which folder to place the message in? Declude readdresses messages to the subarea. It is up to IMail to perform delivery, i.e.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude vs iMail

2004-07-19 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Thanks Scott and Sanford. (That should have been a smiley instead of a question mark after the word suggestion. :-) OK this is what I thought. Now if a user sets up forwarding, should/will iMail forward all mail or only that destined for the Inbox. That is, will mail that Declude says goes

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude vs iMail

2004-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
It is possible that IMail could override this for some reason, but I can't think of a case where it would. Well, RULES.IMA is one big reason...:) --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude vs iMail

2004-07-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
OK this is what I thought. Now if a user sets up forwarding, should/will iMail forward all mail or only that destined for the Inbox. That is, will mail that Declude says goes into the 'spam' mailbox be forwarded instead of 'filed'? Is this a possible over-ride behavior? In this case, it will go

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude vs iMail

2004-07-19 Thread Grant Griffith - Declude JM
Just a warning on this, make sure that you have that domain setup to be able to create sub-folders. We set this up and then realized they were being returned as they were bouncing since the folder did not exist. Sincerely, Grant Griffith EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management A Division of ETC

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude vs iMail

2004-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Now if a user sets up forwarding, should/will iMail forward all mail or only that destined for the Inbox. FORWARD.IMA covers all mail. mailbox.FWD forwards selectively. Since this stuff is all IMail behavior (not related to Declude), you'd learn a lot fromsometesting.

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issues

2004-07-19 Thread Dave Doherty
1) Now that AOL passes SPF, I'm getting more junk from them. So I lowered SPFPass to -3 to offset AOL's normal failure of noabuse (1) and nopostmaster (2). 2) We're starting to see real spammers passing SPF. So now I'm thinking of dropping SPFPASS altogether, and using SPFFAIL to help identify

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude vs iMail

2004-07-19 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Once again thanks to all. I wanted to make sure I was headed in the right direction making sure the issue I need to address isn't with Declude. It is doing what we set it up to do. Now I have to get iMail to not over-ride that. Rod -- Sanford Whiteman wrote: Now if a user sets up

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issues

2004-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Has anybody else done this? What are you all seeing with SPF? Most don't score SPFPASS. Suggest you follow suit and only work with failures. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issues

2004-07-19 Thread Darin Cox
I believe the consensus has been that SPF Pass is not good to use in negative weighting, but SPF Fail helps. If nothing else, we catch a good bit of spam and viruses that forge our email addresses by using SPF. As it gets more widely adopted, it will help more. There is still the drawback for

[Declude.JunkMail] CORRUPTEDVIRUS v1.0.0

2004-07-19 Thread Matt
I thought I would share this one with the list since it's been a while and the problem that this targets is rather problematic in nature, though not very threatening. This filter targets messages sent by virus infected computers that are missing the attachment but define the file. This results

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Getting rid of old Declude JunkMail headers

2004-07-19 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Brad Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there any way to get rid of old Declude JunkMail headers? In particular, the WEIGHT* headers which I'm using in my Imail rules to separate the spam from the rest of the mail. If I get an email from (or that passed

[Declude.JunkMail] What seems to work better for others?

2004-07-19 Thread Robert
I am wondering what works better for other operators? To use 10 or 12 smaller txt filter files, or 2 or 3 larger ones? It seems that more smaller ones are easier to manage using categories. But what uses less CPU/Memory usage? Which way is faster? Thanks Robert --- [This E-mail was

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What seems to work better for others?

2004-07-19 Thread Glenn Brooks
Also along this line of questions, my main filters are mailfrom and helo AND I also am starting to collect a large number of files. Each filter file as approx. 1500 lines. So my question is the same as asked previous (listed below) but also, would it be better to simply use headers filter

[Declude.JunkMail]

2004-07-19 Thread Evans Martin
I am trying to whitelist a domain so it will not be scanned by Declude. I have used the WHITELIST TODOMAIN in the global.cfg but the message is still being scored by declude. What am I doing wrong? Thank You, Evans Martin In my global.cfg WHITELIST TODOMAIN fbcnashville.org

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] IPBYPASS and WHITELIST IP

2004-07-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
If I could pump in any list of address (not just locally hosted), and also wildcard domains, and do it fully within IMail, I would definitely be interested. Guys, I forgot to check back in this thread until today. Stupid me. Thanks for the feedback and I'll write back soon.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CORRUPTEDVIRUS v1.0.0

2004-07-19 Thread Scott Fisher
I think the vulnerability checks are catching 0/1 length files. I haven't seen one lately. That said, your e-mail numbers well surpass mine, so I might just be luckier. From my virus logs: 07/04/2004 08:13:21 Q024e0094005eb63a MIME file: message.zip [base64; Length=0 Checksum=1441] 07/04/2004

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What seems to work better for others?

2004-07-19 Thread Matt
It's better to have two filters, one for MAILFROM and one HELO rather than searching HEADERS for the same string. The trick is that when matching MAILFROM or HELO, you are only matching one short string instead of ~1K of text contained within the headers. If you are looking to save on

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CORRUPTEDVIRUS v1.0.0

2004-07-19 Thread Matt
Strange, I do see similar entries in my logs today, but I had a client report two different zero length zip files that got through this morning. It could be that their system stripped the attachments and left them empty. It appears that F-Prot had issues with the new virus that was producing

RE: [Declude.JunkMail]

2004-07-19 Thread Michael Hardrick
Title: Message Hi Evans, In the global.cfg, you can add "WHITELIST FROM fbcnashville.org" and see if it works. Since the domain you are needing to Whitelist has the address in the FROM and REPLY-TO part of the header. Below is a clip from Scott's website. Mike TNWEB