[Declude.JunkMail] Spam Haus Revisited

2002-12-09 Thread Dan Patnode
ADVISORY: Spam Haus, the only public black list I trust outside of a weighted system just added this to their roster: http://spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL5618 Its a large (8000+) range thats chuck full of spammers. Unfortunately, it also has legit email servers, I've already had 2 cli

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] how to block multiple @ sign in To field

2002-12-09 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> We have our smtp server running Declude...The smtp server is then > forwarding the emails to our pop server This is a perfectly fine configuration, and does not constitute a multistage relay UNLESS you have your POP3 server set to relay for/to the IP of your SMTP server; if you have it

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] how to block multiple @ sign in To field

2002-12-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
We have our smtp server running Declude with the Percent test enabled (with a weight large enough to hold the message). Good. :) The smtp server is then forwarding the emails to our pop server (no declude). The strange thing is that the first @ sign is replaced by % by the smtp server before

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test (Report)

2002-12-09 Thread John Tolmachoff
>> If you can explain how you come up with that analysis, I >> would be willing to do that here. > >It's simple if you have not too much msg/day. I meant so other way than F3. >I'm not sure if you understand was I mean. I think that it's absolutely not important >how much of the total in process

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] how to block multiple @ sign in To field

2002-12-09 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> ...a spammer sends anemailto > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@myvaliddomain.com. The imail server is > accepting the email since @myvaliddomain.com is a local domain and > then sending the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only if your IMail relay permissions a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] how to block multiple @ sign in To field

2002-12-09 Thread Camil Samaha
We have our smtp server running Declude with the Percent test enabled (with a weight large enough to hold the message). The smtp server is then forwarding the emails to our pop server (no declude). The strange thing is that the first @ sign is replaced by % by the smtp server before sending it to t

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] how to block multiple @ sign in To field

2002-12-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
Is there anything we can do to prevent someone from sending an email with multiple @ signs in the To field? e.g. a spammer sends an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]@myvaliddomain.com. The imail server is accepting the email since @myvaliddomain.com is a local domain and then sending the message to [EMA

[Declude.JunkMail] how to block multiple @ sign in To field

2002-12-09 Thread Camil Samaha
Is there anything we can do to prevent someone from sending an email with multiple @ signs in the To field? e.g. a spammer sends an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]@myvaliddomain.com. The imail server is accepting the email since @myvaliddomain.com is a local domain and then sending the message to [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delog

2002-12-09 Thread Tom
> It's a cool tool but I don't understand the interface. Please visit http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog then click on INTERFACE on the left side. > Can anyone help with a couple of questions? Ok... > 1) The meter-Does this show how much spam is sent to the domain > as a percentage of the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test (Report)

2002-12-09 Thread Markus Gufler
> Out of 1829, 37 SPAM messages failed POPULARDOMAINS. That is about 2%. > Out of 1829, 26 valid messages failed POPULARDOMAINS. That is > about 1.4%. I am not including the 4 that you have changed > the configuration for. I'm not sure if you understand was I mean. I think that it's absolutely

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test (Report)

2002-12-09 Thread John Tolmachoff
OK, humor me here: Out of 1829, 37 SPAM messages failed POPULARDOMAINS. That is about 2%. Out of 1829, 26 valid messages failed POPULARDOMAINS. That is about 1.4%. I am not including the 4 that you have changed the configuration for. The ratio of positive to false positive is about 1.4 to 1. Tha

[Declude.JunkMail] spam listing question....

2002-12-09 Thread paul
This isn't completely Declude stuff here, but it IS spam related, so here goes, hope someone cam help. Anyone have dealings with Wirehub-Dyna? just because we seem to be listed there, We've e-mailed them, kindly of course, and hopefully we'll be removed from that list. What brought this up was a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread John Carter
There may be truth to the cafe tale. I have an instructor who used a friend's apartment complex cafe for email and now is getting hit with tons of stuff. We can trace some of it back through the air2lan.net system (cafe provider). John C. Sanford Whiteman wrote: However he does travel qu

[Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test (Report)

2002-12-09 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi all who are interested on this, I've checked our declude logfiles for the last 24 hours and came to this result: In messages processed: 1829 Identified as spam: 102 >From this 37 spam messages has had a popular domain as from address. >From this 21 has had enough points to be catched wi

[Declude.JunkMail] Delog

2002-12-09 Thread Greg Foulks
It's a cool tool but I don't understand the interface. Can anyone help with a couple of questions? 1) The meter-Does this show how much spam is sent to the domain as a percentage of the total amount of email sent to the domain? 2) Interactive mode doesn't seem to work that well 3) Failed count

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> However he does travel quite a lot for our company and meet with > clients, so his profile is much more public than mine. If applicable, you should tell him to be particularly careful at Internet cafes abroad. I have heard tell of numerous cases in which a business trip, and a lo

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Purtell
I know too many users get suckered by the "unsubscribe" link. But this particular boss is hip to those tricks. He's a former UNIX programmer and network engineer who has been involved in the emergence of the Internet. However he does travel quite a lot for our company and meet with clients, so h

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread Smart Business Lists
Matt, Monday, December 9, 2002 you wrote: MR> Does this sound familiar? MR> DAY 1: mgmt-type (i.e. drooling idiot) gets 1 spam. MR>Dutifully asks to be removed. MR> DAY 2: 2 spams and 2 happy-go-lucky removal requests. MR> DAY 3: 4 spams, 4 removal clicks. MR> DAY 5: 256 spams and ...

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread Matt Robertson
John Shacklett wrote: > I suspect your Veep has similar skeletons in his flipper door. Does this sound familiar? DAY 1: mgmt-type (i.e. drooling idiot) gets 1 spam. Dutifully asks to be removed. DAY 2: 2 spams and 2 happy-go-lucky removal requests. DAY 3: 4 spams, 4 removal clicks. DAY

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread John Shacklett
Our CFO, who has "never given his email address out to ANYONE!" fills out every reader reply card for a free trade magazine, belongs to the board of something called the Financial Executives Institute, and answers every telephone survey-research phone call that crosses his desk. I suspect your Veep

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread Sean Fahey
Disgruntled employee sign him up for porno? >> We're trying to figure out why my boss -- a vice president -- receives much more spamthan I do. I get about two spam a day, while he gets 50. His email address is not on any of our public --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (h

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
We're trying to figure out why my boss -- a vice president -- receives much more spam than I do. The two most common reasons for this would be [1] His E-mail address is more readily found, or [2] His E-mail address is has a common username (for example, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will typically rece

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread Smart Business Lists
Keith, Monday, December 9, 2002 you wrote: KP> We're trying to figure out why my boss -- a vice president -- KP> receives much more spam than I do. I get about two spam a day, KP> while he gets 50. 2 out of 4 might be bad but 50 out of 1,000 might not be. I handle 500+ messages per day an

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Purtell
No. I've checked the headers of spam that's getting to him. It is getting marked by Declude, but isn't failing enough tests to be automatically deleted. Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas City) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email messa

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread Bill Landry
Have you inadvertently whitelisted his e-mail address? Bill -Original Message- From: Keith Purtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients We're trying to figure out why my boss --

[Declude.JunkMail] Do spammers rank recipients

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Purtell
We're trying to figure out why my boss -- a vice president -- receives much more spam than I do. I get about two spam a day, while he gets 50. His email address is not on any of our public sites. He does not submit his address at Web sites. Is it possible someone acquired and sold his address as

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test

2002-12-09 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi John, With my settings at the moment a mail from one off this popular domains will have a "default value" of 70% 40% POPULARDOMAINS 15% NOPOSTMASTER 15% NOABUSE Now I asume that no real message from this domains will trigger a junkmail test that is heavy weightet (BASE64, BADHEADERS, SPAMCOP

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test

2002-12-09 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Assuming the big guys spool OUT from their INBOUND MX records I think that would hold true But for example here at my office, we have (2) MX records, which are our inbound filter gateways. However outbound mail spools through DIFFERENT gateways, so all mail leaving my organization should actua

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test

2002-12-09 Thread Cris Porter
What if you set the positive weight of the popular domains equal to the negative weight of the IPNOTINMX test? Won't only invalid mail from these domains add to the accumulated weight? Cris Porter JVC America -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test

2002-12-09 Thread John Tolmachoff
>I'm missing something that could trigger false positives? What if I send you a note from my yahoo.com account that just happens to trigger one of your filters because I am telling you about a new spam technique? With the way you have it set, just me sending a mail to you from my yahoo.com accoun

[Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test

2002-12-09 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi all, In the last 48 hours I've tested a blacklist that includes the following domains: yahoo.com yahoo.co.uk hotmail.com msn.com email.com aol.com mail.com lycos.co.uk As we know each of them is often used in spam as sender domai