I thought the essence of the argument against this is the fact that
such testing doesn't happen one at a time, but instead in unison with
one another. So if 20 queries are sent out and the first 10 that come
back to put the score high enough to fail, there isn't really that much
overhead in
Also see:
http://pinkbell.net/
Best Regards,
Sr.Consultant /
Phillip B. Holmes
Media Resolutions Inc.
Macromedia Alliance Partner
http://www.mediares.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL
I have a user that sends email from his earthlink account and recently the
mail has been being caught by spam domains. I think the user made a
configuration change and is using an alternate mail server.
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'earthlink.' found: Address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent
Since we house mulitple domains (using spam filtering) and this
filter test is used in the Global file it seems it would fail every other
domain email (i.e. 1000 weight) that we house on the same box?! Is there
a way to only define it for use in the default config file for that
Title: Best practice for new config file
Good morning,
Up until now, when a new release of Declude comes out, I have just been upgrading the .exe file and not downloading the config file, due to lack of time to devote to the re-configuration.
Lately, my old settings aren't working as well
Anyone else seeing e-mails such as these:I've received a number of these
and they're being caught by Declude as spam.. They also appear to be coming
from more than one place, including rr.com..
__
Subject: How you been?
Why hello ;)
Whats been happening
Scott,
Could this be done with some form of DNS based test where the test result(s)
are only used in the $default$.junkmail for the specific domain?
George
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.
Scott Perry
Sent: Wednesday, September
As was mentioned here before, it's not a BAD idea
to want Declude to stop after X has been reached, but, what if the whitelist
came right after that X number?
Scott, are there any plans to, or can Declude
already, run the Whitelist tests FIRST, so that if they are whitelisted, forgoes
any
Yeah, I'm seeing them too. They seem to have an embedded ActiveX Control
file with it. Fortunately, Declude is catching mine as well.
Troy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Maze -
Hostmaster
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:52
Scott, are there any plans to, or can Declude already, run the Whitelist
tests FIRST, so that if they are whitelisted, forgoes any weight testing
alltogether? I think that would be beneficial in this case. If we list the
whitelist tests first, will they be run first?
There is a new
Title: Log message
I am seeing these in my logs
Msg failed OSRELAY (Please stop using relays.osirusoft.com)
Should I comment out that test?
Sharyn
Title: Log message
Yes. As
of about 3 weeks ago or so.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Sharyn
SchmidtSent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:10 AMTo:
Declude Junkmail ListSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Log
message
I am
Title: Log message
I
think we need to - I've read here on this list that the site is down but then
again I've read here that it will come back up again sometime in the
future.
I
guess we'll commit it out and see what happens.
Greg
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Sharyn, I am a little surprised. You usually keep up on things.
Guess you have not seen any of the posts regarding OSRelay in the last 2
weeks?
No, sorry everyone.
I have been SWAMPED here with projects other than mail administration
and most of the time I am lucky if I read mail that
Sharyn, I am a little surprised. You usually keep up on things.
Guess you have not seen any of the posts regarding OSRelay in the last 2
weeks?
John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is a new PREWHITELIST ON option that will run some of the
whitelists before the tests are run.
Can you explain the some part?
John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com
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Copy the new tests that I want to use to the old file?
That would probably be best, as replacing the file would undo any tweaks you
have done for your situation.
John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com
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[This E-mail was scanned for viruses
There is a new PREWHITELIST ON option that will run some of the
whitelists before the tests are run.
Can you explain the some part?
It currently just does the WHITELIST FROM and WHITELIST IP whitelist
entries before running the spam tests.
Sorry...
Username: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Password: blue
(Forgot the cardinal rule for virtual domains!)
-Sandy
Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Folks,
Is there a test that can be based on the results of 2 or more other
specific tests? ex: an email that fails both HELOBOGUS and
BADHEADERS would fail HELOHEAD and have x number of points
added/deducted to it?
Thanks
Nick
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Is there a test that can be based on the results of 2 or more other
specific tests? ex: an email that fails both HELOBOGUS and
BADHEADERS would fail HELOHEAD and have x number of points
added/deducted to it?
No, that is not possible. It is something that has been requested, but it
looks like a
Is there a test that can be based on the results of 2 or more other
specific tests? ex: an email that fails both HELOBOGUS and
BADHEADERS would fail HELOHEAD and have x number of points
added/deducted to it?
No, that is not possible. It is something that has been requested, but it
looks
Sandy,
I was also looking forward to seeing what you had up there, thanks for
the login info.
Question...how did you process the configuration changes? Are you just
using IMail rules as the filter (configuring that by way of IMail's
tags) or did you actually get their Web server to execute
So far so good - I really like what I see!
Thanks,
Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Todd - Smart
Mail
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]Review of Spamchk - was More and more
I have not used this feature (or should say told my clients about it) but I
do have it turned on.
I'm curious as to how much resources it needs to do this checking?
I assume each email that comes in it has to check the aliases.txt file in
that persons account.
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In my something.junkmail file I have:
WEIGHT10SUBJECT (SUSPECTED SPAM)
I know I can add %WEIGHT% to the end if I want the weight to show up in the
subject but how can I have theweight show up in the subject of ALL emails I
receive even if they do not receive a weight?
TIA
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[This
I have not used this feature (or should say told my clients about it) but I
do have it turned on.
I'm curious as to how much resources it needs to do this checking?
I assume each email that comes in it has to check the aliases.txt file in
that persons account.
We haven't run any tests on it, but
In my something.junkmail file I have:
WEIGHT10SUBJECT (SUSPECTED SPAM)
I know I can add %WEIGHT% to the end if I want the weight to show up in the
subject but how can I have theweight show up in the subject of ALL emails I
receive even if they do not receive a weight?
You could use:
Scott,
This feature would be of GREAT use. Many simply haven't thought out the
implications of allowing the ability to combine tests.
One example: the gentleman that wants to filter for specific names, but only
one one domain -- this should allow setting that up.
Adding the ability to combine
I placed:
CATCHALLMAILS SUBJECT [Weight=%WEIGHT%]
in my something.junkmail file but the weight did not show up in the subject
of a message that I just received.
Do I need to add something to the global.cfg? I'm trying to do this on my
own email and nothing else.
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Actually, it could be a minor change to the processing -- at the
$default$.junkmaillevel, rather than global.cfg -- as this is not a
test, but a handling of the test results. It would mean order dependence,
usually (or the processing of combining tests done first, then other
handling done).
CATCHALLMAILS SUBJECT [Weight=%WEIGHT%]
in my something.junkmail file but the weight did not show up in the subject
of a message that I just received.
Are you sure that the something.junkmail file was the one used to process
the E-mail (aliases can cause Declude to use a different file than
No, assuming that the CATCHALLMAILS catchallmails x x 0 0 line is in
there (it is in the default config file).
By default, it is commented out, no?
John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com
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Actually, it could be a minor change to the processing -- at the
$default$.junkmaillevel, rather than Global.cfg -- as this is not a
test, but a handling of the test results. It would mean order
dependence,
usually (or the processing of combining tests done first, then other
handling
No, assuming that the CATCHALLMAILS catchallmails x x 0 0 line is in
there (it is in the default config file).
By default, it is commented out, no?
It was originally, no longer is commented out with the default settings.
-Scott
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Declude
You actually
reminded me of how complex this would be. Both the Global.cfg and
appropriate .junkmail file would have to be loaded into memory, some tests
run, consult the files, other tests run, consult the files, final
tests run, consult the files and so forth.
You are trying to make this
Question...how did you process the configuration changes? Are you
just using IMail rules as the filter...
Nope.
or did you actually get their Web server to execute your own code to
configure Declude directly?
In a sense. We use unused IMail configuration files (such as PLAN.IMA
in the
I'm with you on how this would be accomplished, though it would
probably be a somewhat laborious rewrite in how scoring was handled in
comparison to how it is handled now. Just guessing of course.
This was actually my first feature request to Scott after purchasing
the application some time
Cute! I see how you did that now. I was really hoping though that you
discovered some convoluted way to get IMail's Web server to run
scripts...or maybe not depending on how convoluted it might have been.
Thanks,
Matt
Sanford Whiteman wrote:
Question...how did you process the
Shoot, my link got munged. Here's what I was really talking about:
Are patent methods patently absurd?
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-962182.html
"
The patent office has granted patents for side-to-side
swinging on a swing set and for making a peanut butter and jelly
sandwich without
a crust."
Shoot, my link got munged. Here's what I was really talking about:
Are patent methods patently absurd?
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-962182.html
"
The patent office has granted patents for side-to-side
swinging on a swing set and for making a peanut butter and jelly
sandwich without
a crust."
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