RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code

[John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)]

Search the Imail archives.

In the past, for some reason, some e-mail from him goes from a server in the
US to a server in the UK and then back to the US.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:37 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code
 
 Hi,
 
 A message today from Len Conrad at IMGate failed the BADHEADERS and
ROUTING
 tests.
 
 The error code returned by both tests was the same: a004010f
 
 The lookup on declude.com doesn't know what this means.
 
 Help ???
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code

[R. Scott Perry]

A message today from Len Conrad at IMGate failed the BADHEADERS and 
ROUTING tests.

The error code returned by both tests was the same: a004010f
The lookup on declude.com doesn't know what this means.
That code is a combination of two things.
The first is as John pointed out:  Len will often use a computer in the 
U.S., send mail to someone in the U.S., but relay the mail through an 
offshore mailserver.  Perfectly legal, but it will trigger the ROUTING test 
(since that is how the majority of spam was sent a couple years ago).

The second problem is that the Message-ID: header was bogus, and did not 
conform to the RFCs, which caused the E-mail to fail the more serious 
BADHEADERS test.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

[Ernesto]

Darrell,

Thanks for the tip.  Though it doesn't apply to me, it was
my DNS setting in my SMTP service in IMail.  Once I changed
those, all was well in email land.

Ernesto

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From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?


 Ernesto,

 I am not sure if anyone else has covered this or even if this is
applicable,
 but some ISP's like ATT will deny DNS queries for known spam lists like
 SPAMCOP while allowing other ones to go through.

 Darrell

  
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 Ernesto writes:

  Scott,
 Thanks for the reply.  I have checked my DNS settings, but everything
is
  fine.
  I've checked again, and nothing is being detected as spam, even when the
IPs
  are
  listed.  Actually, none of the other tests, such as SORBS, DSBL, AHBL,
etc
  are giving
  any positives.
 
If it really is my DNS settings, how can I check to make sure that I
do
  have it correct.
  thanks
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?
 
 
 
  Has there been a change in the cfg files lately, or something?
  I've seen a few domains/IPs that Spamcop does have listed,
  yet, they don't appear to have failed the spamcop test.
  This is the line I have in my cfg file:
  
  SPAMCOP ip4r bl.spamcop.net 127.0.0.2 5 0
  
  
  
  Is there something I should notice so that I can see
  
  why this test isn't being run?  (I used to see it all the time too.)
 
  Are any E-mails failing the SPAMCOP test?  If not, then there is
probably
  a
  DNS or configuration issue.
 
  If some E-mails are failing the SPAMCOP test, the problem may just be
that
  you are receiving the E-mail before the IP gets listed in the SPAMCOP
  database.  Unfortunately, the company that now runs SPAMCOP no longer
lets
  you see when the IP was added, so it is impossible to know for certain
  whether or not that is the case.
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code

[Dave Doherty]

Hi Scott-
Len says it's common to all versions of Eudora. Is there a way to make an 
adjustment where the mailer contains Eudora? Or is that even a good idea? 
He also says it's an optional header so it shouldn't matter. Maybe you 
should communicate directly with Len.

-d

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Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code



A message today from Len Conrad at IMGate failed the BADHEADERS and 
ROUTING tests.

The error code returned by both tests was the same: a004010f
The lookup on declude.com doesn't know what this means.
That code is a combination of two things.
The first is as John pointed out:  Len will often use a computer in the 
U.S., send mail to someone in the U.S., but relay the mail through an 
offshore mailserver.  Perfectly legal, but it will trigger the ROUTING 
test (since that is how the majority of spam was sent a couple years ago).

The second problem is that the Message-ID: header was bogus, and did not 
conform to the RFCs, which caused the E-mail to fail the more serious 
BADHEADERS test.

   -Scott
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code

[Sanford Whiteman]

 Is  there  a  way  to  make  an adjustment where the mailer contains
 Eudora?

Sure, write a filter.

 Or is that even a good idea?

It's  fine,  if  the  only  thing  you  counterweight  is one specific
failure.

 He  also  says it's an optional header so it shouldn't matter.

Nonsense. If you're going to include a header, follow the RFCs for its
syntax.   Only  what  Unix  partisans  call  toy  MUAs  (or  similar
pejorative) _don't_ include the Message-ID, so that's a flimsy excuse.

 Maybe you should communicate directly with Len.

No comment.

--Sandy



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[Declude.JunkMail] Bitmask Checking - Suggestion

[Andy Schmidt]

Title: Message



Hi 
Scott:

This may have been 
discussed before. I'd like to put in my vote for a "Bitmask" comparision 
feature for tests/sites that combine multiple values, e.g., 
SURBL:


  2 = comes from sc.surbl.org4 = comes from ws.surbl.org8 = comes 
  from phishing data source (labelled as [ph] in multi)16 = 
  comes from ob.surbl.org32 = comes from ab.surbl.org64 = comes from jp 
  data source (labelled as [jp] in multi)
  
  If an entry belongs to one of the lists it will have 
  an address where the last octet has that value, for example 127.0.0.8 means it 
  comes from the phishing list and 127.0.0.2 means it's in the data used in 
  sc.surbl.org. An entry on multiple lists gets the sum of those list numbers as 
  the last octet, so 127.0.0.6 means an entry is on both ws.surbl.org and 
  sc.surbl.org (comes from: 2 + 4 = 6). 
I propose something 
like this:

INV-URIBL external 
B0010 "INVURIBL.exe0 multi.surbl.org 20 
%WEIGHT%" 6 0 
INV-URIBL external 
B0100 "INVURIBL.exe 0 multi.surbl.org 20 
%WEIGHT%" 4 0 
INV-URIBL external 
B1000 "INVURIBL.exe 0 multi.surbl.org 20 
%WEIGHT%" 5 0 
INV-URIBL external 
B0001 "INVURIBL.exe 0 multi.surbl.org 20 
%WEIGHT%" 4 0 
INV-URIBL external 
B0010 "INVURIBL.exe 0 multi.surbl.org 20 
%WEIGHT%" 6 0 
INV-URIBL external 
B0100"INVURIBL.exe 0 multi.surbl.org 20 
%WEIGHT%" 5 
0Instead of doing an "equal" 
comparison against the return value, you'd do a logical AND.

Or, if you want to 
keep programming to a minimum, define a new test type 
"ExternalB":

INV-URIBL 
externalb2 "INVURIBL.exe0 
multi.surbl.org 20 %WEIGHT%" 6 0 
INV-URIBL externalb4 
"INVURIBL.exe 0 multi.surbl.org 20 %WEIGHT%" 4 0 

INV-URIBL externalb8 
"INVURIBL.exe 0 multi.surbl.org 20 %WEIGHT%" 5 0 

INV-URIBL externalb16 
"INVURIBL.exe 0 multi.surbl.org 20 %WEIGHT%" 4 0 

INV-URIBL externalb32 
"INVURIBL.exe 0 multi.surbl.org 20 %WEIGHT%" 6 0 

INV-URIBL 
externalb64"INVURIBL.exe 0 
multi.surbl.org 20 %WEIGHT%" 5 
0


Now the coding change would be 
trivial.
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code

[Dave Doherty]

Hi Sandy-
HEADERS -3 CONTAINS Eudora
Would seem to work. But can we make it more specific, like
MAILER -3 CONTAINS Eudora
-d

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From: Sanford Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dave Doherty Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:56 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code


Is  there  a  way  to  make  an adjustment where the mailer contains
Eudora?
Sure, write a filter.
Or is that even a good idea?
It's  fine,  if  the  only  thing  you  counterweight  is one specific
failure.
He  also  says it's an optional header so it shouldn't matter.
Nonsense. If you're going to include a header, follow the RFCs for its
syntax.   Only  what  Unix  partisans  call  toy  MUAs  (or  similar
pejorative) _don't_ include the Message-ID, so that's a flimsy excuse.
Maybe you should communicate directly with Len.
No comment.
--Sandy

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[Declude.JunkMail] list of allowed rcpthosts

[Chase Seibert]

Two or three times a week I see reports of internal mail bouncing with the following error:

Diagnostic-Code: smtp;553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts

The message always originates from a MS SMTP mail gateway that should pass the message directly off to one of the iMail/Declude servers. I cannot be sure from the message if MS SMTP is trying to pass it off to the correct server, however. Perhaps it messed up the DNS lookup. I'm enabling more logging on that server to find out.

In the meantime, assuming that MS SMTP is routing correctly to one of the iMail servers, what might cause this? Domains are not added/removed frequently enought to be related, although I am running the adddomain/adduser executables every time people change their accounts. 

I have not tracked it down before, because it's never repeatable. If they send the same message right after they get the error; it goes through. It seems to happen to all domains/users. Because it doesn't happen often enough to effect the same user twice, I havn't really had to look into it.

I have no Declude rules set to bounce. Users are allowed to set iMail bounce rules, but this error does not seem to indicate that

Any ideas?



 -Chase
Chase Seibert| Network and Systems Engineer | Bullhorn Inc | 617.464.2440 x119 | www.bullhorn.com

-Original Message-From:Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Declude.JunkMail@declude.com" ;Sent: Jan 13, 2005 01:54:26 PMSubject: Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error codeHi Sandy- HEADERS -3 CONTAINS Eudora Would seem to work. But can we make it more specific, like MAILER -3 CONTAINS Eudora -d - Original Message - From: "Sanford Whiteman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Dave Doherty" Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:56 AM Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code  Is there a way to make an adjustment where the mailer contains  "Eudora"?   Sure, write a filter.   Or is that even a good idea?   It's fine, if the only thing you counterweight is one specific  failure.   He also says it's an optional header so it shouldn't matter.   Nonsense. If you're going to include a header, follow the RFCs for its  syntax. Only what Unix partisans call "toy MUAs" (or similar  pejorative) _don't_ include the Message-ID, so that's a flimsy excuse.   Maybe you should communicate directly with Len.   No comment.   --Sandy  Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist  Broadleaf Systems, a division of  Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!   http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/   Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail  Aliases!   http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/   http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/   ---  [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus  (http://www.declude.com)]   ---  This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To  unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and  type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found  at http://www.mail-archive.com.   --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code

[Ncl Admin]

I don't buy this agrument. I use Eudora and don't fail those tests. Did
this message fail those tests?

At 10:55 AM 1/13/2005 -0500, Dave Doherty wrote:
Hi Scott-

Len says it's common to all versions of Eudora. Is there a way to make an 
adjustment where the mailer contains Eudora? Or is that even a good idea? 
He also says it's an optional header so it shouldn't matter. Maybe you 
should communicate directly with Len.

-d




- Original Message - 
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code



A message today from Len Conrad at IMGate failed the BADHEADERS and 
ROUTING tests.

The error code returned by both tests was the same: a004010f

The lookup on declude.com doesn't know what this means.

 That code is a combination of two things.

 The first is as John pointed out:  Len will often use a computer in the 
 U.S., send mail to someone in the U.S., but relay the mail through an 
 offshore mailserver.  Perfectly legal, but it will trigger the ROUTING 
 test (since that is how the majority of spam was sent a couple years ago).

 The second problem is that the Message-ID: header was bogus, and did not 
 conform to the RFCs, which caused the E-mail to fail the more serious 
 BADHEADERS test.

-Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code

[Dave Doherty]

No, because I have the list address whiletlisted. Send to me directly off 
list and I'll let you know.

-d
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Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code


I don't buy this agrument. I use Eudora and don't fail those tests. Did
this message fail those tests?
At 10:55 AM 1/13/2005 -0500, Dave Doherty wrote:
Hi Scott-
Len says it's common to all versions of Eudora. Is there a way to make an
adjustment where the mailer contains Eudora? Or is that even a good 
idea?
He also says it's an optional header so it shouldn't matter. Maybe you
should communicate directly with Len.

-d

- Original Message - 
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown error code



A message today from Len Conrad at IMGate failed the BADHEADERS and
ROUTING tests.
The error code returned by both tests was the same: a004010f
The lookup on declude.com doesn't know what this means.
That code is a combination of two things.
The first is as John pointed out:  Len will often use a computer in the
U.S., send mail to someone in the U.S., but relay the mail through an
offshore mailserver.  Perfectly legal, but it will trigger the ROUTING
test (since that is how the majority of spam was sent a couple years 
ago).

The second problem is that the Message-ID: header was bogus, and did not
conform to the RFCs, which caused the E-mail to fail the more serious
BADHEADERS test.
   -Scott
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