Re: [Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders?
Hi Dave, thanks for the response. I'm not sure of the mechanics of rejection, all I did to stop this for now was to check the reject null senders box in smtp security. Please understand that I'm just a guy who got stuck with this job, and 90% of the conversation in this list is over my head :D Originally this iwebmsg power consumption was happening by means of null senders sending messages to imailsrv which was generating tons of illegal list commands in the log, I got around this by renaming imailsrv.exe to something else which got the log files down to 4 or 5 mbs a day instead of 70 or 80. We don't have any need for the imailsrv function, so I thought what the heck... This lasted for a few weeks, but now it's happening again, although not to the same extent. I was previously getting somewhere around 170,000 of these a day. I'm seeing that a few of them are now starting to send to listserv. The log files are now at around 7 or 8 mbs, I'm getting about 2000 of these null senders a day now, which really shouldn't bother. I do have a number of tmp files in the spool directory which I wasn't getting before I renamed the imailsrv.exe, strangely these tmp files don't look as though they are related to any attempt to send a message to imailsrv. Weird. Another thing that is goofy is that I have a couple of users whose attachments seem to stay in the spool directory for ever and ever, is that normal for a user that pretty much exclusively uses the web mail function? spool directory size is usually about 60 or 70 mbs, with about 100 or 150 files in it. I usually keep about a months worth of logs in the spool. any suggestions? i'm waiting to get a bunch of postmaster messages from rfc-ignorant while i have things set this way. cheers Royce At 10:11 PM 14/04/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hi Royce- How are you rejecting the messages? Do you use a nobody alias with an autoresponse, or do you just let Imail return the standard error message? Any idea how many you're getting? It seems odd that this would effect iwebmsg. Look for another problem somewhere. How many files do you have in your spool directory? -Dave - Original Message - From: Royce Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders? Using Imail 6.05, and Declude 1.79 beta on NT4.0 I've had a spate of crud flowing in the last week or so from @variousaddresses addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which of course get turned away as the addressee is unknown to my mail server. Unfortunately there seems to be such a flood of the damned things that it ends up stalling the iwebmsg service and consuming 100% cpu so a number of times a day I have to shut the iwebmsg service down, which can take up to 20 minutes to accomplish. I've had to turn off accepting null senders just to grab my breath. Whats the quick and dirty solution, some sort of hold action? is there a way to configure a declude test to action these messages? please forgive if this seems a stupid question, i'm pretty foggy after a 4 AM hard drive replacement on a different machine Thanks for any answers Royce Burnett CICI --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders?
Great Dave, thanks a lot for the help. I'll make some changes and keep an eye on it. Cheers Royce CICI At 03:14 PM 15/04/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hi Royce- Sounds like you've got a few things going on there. Understand, I'm on version 8.05 now, so your mileage may vary. I'll try to keep it the basics. First off, it sounds to me like you have too much stuff in your spool directory. I suggest that you zip your older log files and move them out of the spool directory. You should be able to delete all spool files older than one or two days if you use normal SMTP retry settings like ten attempts half an hour apart. How large are the attachment files? They may be stuck in the queue because they were never delivered. That can happen if they are large, particularly larger than 2MB. If you have no lists, you should not have an imailsrv alias. Delete that if it's present. Delete the nobody alias if it's present. That will let Imail reject misaddressed messages before it processes them. This is way more efficient, and it should cut down on your processor and disk activity quite a lot. Maybe others here have more / better suggestions. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: Royce Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders? Hi Dave, thanks for the response. I'm not sure of the mechanics of rejection, all I did to stop this for now was to check the reject null senders box in smtp security. Please understand that I'm just a guy who got stuck with this job, and 90% of the conversation in this list is over my head :D Originally this iwebmsg power consumption was happening by means of null senders sending messages to imailsrv which was generating tons of illegal list commands in the log, I got around this by renaming imailsrv.exe to something else which got the log files down to 4 or 5 mbs a day instead of 70 or 80. We don't have any need for the imailsrv function, so I thought what the heck... This lasted for a few weeks, but now it's happening again, although not to the same extent. I was previously getting somewhere around 170,000 of these a day. I'm seeing that a few of them are now starting to send to listserv. The log files are now at around 7 or 8 mbs, I'm getting about 2000 of these null senders a day now, which really shouldn't bother. I do have a number of tmp files in the spool directory which I wasn't getting before I renamed the imailsrv.exe, strangely these tmp files don't look as though they are related to any attempt to send a message to imailsrv. Weird. Another thing that is goofy is that I have a couple of users whose attachments seem to stay in the spool directory for ever and ever, is that normal for a user that pretty much exclusively uses the web mail function? spool directory size is usually about 60 or 70 mbs, with about 100 or 150 files in it. I usually keep about a months worth of logs in the spool. any suggestions? i'm waiting to get a bunch of postmaster messages from rfc-ignorant while i have things set this way. cheers Royce At 10:11 PM 14/04/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hi Royce- How are you rejecting the messages? Do you use a nobody alias with an autoresponse, or do you just let Imail return the standard error message? Any idea how many you're getting? It seems odd that this would effect iwebmsg. Look for another problem somewhere. How many files do you have in your spool directory? -Dave - Original Message - From: Royce Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders? Using Imail 6.05, and Declude 1.79 beta on NT4.0 I've had a spate of crud flowing in the last week or so from @variousaddresses addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which of course get turned away as the addressee is unknown to my mail server. Unfortunately there seems to be such a flood of the damned things that it ends up stalling the iwebmsg service and consuming 100% cpu so a number of times a day I have to shut the iwebmsg service down, which can take up to 20 minutes to accomplish. I've had to turn off accepting null senders just to grab my breath. Whats the quick and dirty solution, some sort of hold action? is there a way to configure a declude test to action these messages? please forgive if this seems a stupid question, i'm pretty foggy after a 4 AM hard drive replacement on a different machine Thanks for any answers Royce Burnett CICI --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe
[Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders?
Using Imail 6.05, and Declude 1.79 beta on NT4.0 I've had a spate of crud flowing in the last week or so from @variousaddresses addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which of course get turned away as the addressee is unknown to my mail server. Unfortunately there seems to be such a flood of the damned things that it ends up stalling the iwebmsg service and consuming 100% cpu so a number of times a day I have to shut the iwebmsg service down, which can take up to 20 minutes to accomplish. I've had to turn off accepting null senders just to grab my breath. Whats the quick and dirty solution, some sort of hold action? is there a way to configure a declude test to action these messages? please forgive if this seems a stupid question, i'm pretty foggy after a 4 AM hard drive replacement on a different machine Thanks for any answers Royce Burnett CICI --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
