RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Comcast zombies contained

2004-07-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Sorry, Matt!

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16960

... which seems to bear fruit.  I've received exactly 4 zombie spams from
the ComCast network since June 17, 2004, and my usual rate is tens to
hundreds per day from them.

Unfortunately, there's no indication that ComCast will take any further
action, due to the cost per incident to their Help Desk, so all of those
zombies will still be alive and well, just not sending spam directly from
the infected workstations.

Which in turn means that the worm will turn, and we can expect upgraded
versions of those zombies that will do something else.  I expect that they
will at least start using the ComCast smarthosts, so if you're whitelisting
the legit ComCast mailservers, look out!

Andrew 8)
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Comcast zombies contained

2004-07-02 Thread Matt
Andrew,
I think you spoke too soon.  My stats from yesterday still show that 
3.17% of my total E-mail volume came from Comcast DUL space.  This is 
however a reduction from the 6.51% that I saw on a Thursday one month 
ago (I tag some DUL space with custom filters to supplement the RBL's 
shortcomings).

Comcast has always had some areas that blocked port 25, for instance one 
day about 2 years ago I got a call from a family member that couldn't 
access their E-mail and after over an hour of testing things out over 
the phone, we called their support who confirmed that they had blocked 
port 25 (and not said a single thing to any of their customers).  This 
was the first time that I saw this.

The good news is that within a month I should have port 587 working on 
my system and I pray that Ipswitch sees the need to convert their system 
so that they will allow for AUTH only on this port which would make 
things easier for me (one less set of Declude licenses to buy down the 
road when I separate my scanning server from my hosted account server).

The bad news of course is that when bigger players start moving in this 
direction, it could set a precedent and the rest could fall like 
dominoes.  I can't blame the ISP's for wanting to do this, and from 
their perspective, it is a bigger issue to have so many zombies as 
opposed to blocking legitimate uses of other E-mail servers.  From our 
perspective as spam blockers go, I feel that most of those that suggest 
just simply blocking port 25 is misguided because it limits our 
customers, doesn't really solve a problem as capable hands have this 
figured out already, and it will make spam harder to block as spammers 
seek new avenues from a countless number of other hosts that are harder 
to tag than DUL space.  We should be strongly supporting AUTH only port 
587 support in the software and then port 25 blocking as total solution 
to hijacked residential computers.  Although I like my broadband 
honeypots, that's not necessarily a good reason though to keep them 
open, and the landscape is bound to change in any event, though when and 
how fast is an open question.

Anyone hear anything from Ipswitch about port 587?
Matt
Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
Sorry, Matt!
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16960
... which seems to bear fruit.  I've received exactly 4 zombie spams from
the ComCast network since June 17, 2004, and my usual rate is tens to
hundreds per day from them.
Unfortunately, there's no indication that ComCast will take any further
action, due to the cost per incident to their Help Desk, so all of those
zombies will still be alive and well, just not sending spam directly from
the infected workstations.
Which in turn means that the worm will turn, and we can expect upgraded
versions of those zombies that will do something else.  I expect that they
will at least start using the ComCast smarthosts, so if you're whitelisting
the legit ComCast mailservers, look out!
Andrew 8)
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