Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain?
Reply to: R. Scott Perry Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain? on Monday 6:46:34 PM Wow, that was fast! Thanks Scott. as usual you are very responsive to these kind of requests... How would this be implemented on a user or domain basis? This is likely in your 'Pro' version documentation, but could you summarize this simply for me. I'm assuming this auto detects the right path regardless of the drive the account resides on? This is a very interesting feature. -- Roger Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rleeheath.com - Copy of Original Message(s): - This is something that we are also giving some serious thought to (perhaps an AUTOWHITELIST ON option that if enabled would let Declude JunkMail know to check for address books, and if present, would whitelist any address in them). R This will be in the next beta, and is now available as an interim release ( R http://www.declude.com/release/166i/declude.exe ), for those that want to R test it out immediately. R To use it, you simply add a line AUTOWHITELIST ON in the R \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file. Then, for incoming E-mail, Declude R JunkMail will check to see if the user has an address book set up in web R messaging, and if so, will whitelist any E-mail addresses listed in it. R-Scott R --- R [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] R --- R This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To R unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and R type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found R at http://www.mail-archive.com. R -- R ActivatorMail(tm) ver.122102 Scanned for all viruses by R www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service -- ActivatorMail(tm) ver.122102 Scanned for all viruses by www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain?
How would this be implemented on a user or domain basis? The AUTOWHITELIST option is a global option, and can not be done on a per-user or per-domain basis. I'm assuming this auto detects the right path regardless of the drive the account resides on? That is correct. This is a very interesting feature. I think so too. :) -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain?
One problem with held or bounced mail that notifies the intended recipient that it was blocked, is, you did not elimiate the spam, only change it's contents to hundreds of notifications of unwanted mail. This will get very old, very fast, and lead to the blacklists you are trying to avoid. Intelligent spam filters, combined with reasonably reliable black lists and weighting are much more customizable, and can be set up to allow customers to choose what to hold, what to delete, and what to deliver. Several members of this list have created such apps using various methods. Before I set mine up I would receive between 50 and 100 spams a day, all where caught by Declude, but had low weights (as an ISP I have to be somewhat cosevative in my weighting). After setting up a system that lets the individuals decide, I used very aggressive setting and now only get 5-10 a day tops, many days I get none. I never miss any wanted email, I have an allowed senders list and a blocked senders list, and since it uses Imail rules, I can override the hold and delete settings for the rare occasion, such as the poorly built mailer on my statistics program, that always fails BADHEADERS and SPAMHEADERS, and I cant't allow the sender because that's one of the broken headers. Sorry to ramble, just felt I needed to put my two cents in. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:24 PM To: R. Scott Perry Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain? Reply to: R. Scott Perry Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain? on Thursday 3:13:03 PM Thanks. But a catchall is exactly what I don't want. What I want is a bounce so the sender knows his mail was not accepted... maybe a catchall if cannot deliver to sender... There are whitelist email providers showing up and usually the sender gets sent a message that his mail was not delivered. Usually there is a process to inform the destination user if he wants to add the sender to his or her whitelist. Maybe this is not feasible with Declude, but it would be most certainly nice to have. The lead ZDNet editor David Berlind and I have a dialog going and he is really down on blacklists and more or less endorsing the whitelist concept. So I am shooting for a way to manage this in Declude. I was thinking I could put high weights on all other emails with a bounce by default but give a white list negative counter-weights to let those through. Not sure his would work? -- Roger Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rleeheath.com - Copy of Original Message(s): - Is it possible to make a Declude domain or user setting that enables a whitelist of email sender addresses in the Pro version whereby all emails are rejected or bounced accept a whitelist of senders? In other words reject or bounce all senders accept those that the user wishes to communicate with. Could this be done with weights...sending an eml to bounced mails? This way the Global.Cfg would not be used with its limitations. R This isn't currently possible as a designed feature, but you should be able R to accomplish it with the next release. To do so, you would set up a R per-domain or per-user configuration of CATCHALLMAILS HOLD or something R similar, and then have a whitelist file for that user with all the R addresses that should be accepted. R-Scott R --- R [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] R --- R This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To R unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and R type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found R at http://www.mail-archive.com. R -- R ActivatorMail(tm) ver.122102 Scanned for all viruses by R www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service -- ActivatorMail(tm) ver.122102 Scanned for all viruses by www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain?
Reply to: R. Scott Perry Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain? on Thursday 3:13:03 PM Thanks. But a catchall is exactly what I don't want. What I want is a bounce so the sender knows his mail was not accepted... maybe a catchall if cannot deliver to sender... There are whitelist email providers showing up and usually the sender gets sent a message that his mail was not delivered. Usually there is a process to inform the destination user if he wants to add the sender to his or her whitelist. Maybe this is not feasible with Declude, but it would be most certainly nice to have. The lead ZDNet editor David Berlind and I have a dialog going and he is really down on blacklists and more or less endorsing the whitelist concept. So I am shooting for a way to manage this in Declude. I was thinking I could put high weights on all other emails with a bounce by default but give a white list negative counter-weights to let those through. Not sure his would work? -- Roger Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rleeheath.com - Copy of Original Message(s): - Is it possible to make a Declude domain or user setting that enables a whitelist of email sender addresses in the Pro version whereby all emails are rejected or bounced accept a whitelist of senders? In other words reject or bounce all senders accept those that the user wishes to communicate with. Could this be done with weights...sending an eml to bounced mails? This way the Global.Cfg would not be used with its limitations. R This isn't currently possible as a designed feature, but you should be able R to accomplish it with the next release. To do so, you would set up a R per-domain or per-user configuration of CATCHALLMAILS HOLD or something R similar, and then have a whitelist file for that user with all the R addresses that should be accepted. R-Scott R --- R [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] R --- R This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To R unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and R type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found R at http://www.mail-archive.com. R -- R ActivatorMail(tm) ver.122102 Scanned for all viruses by R www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service -- ActivatorMail(tm) ver.122102 Scanned for all viruses by www.activatormail.com intelligent anti-virus anti-spam service --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
