RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-06 Thread marc catuogno
Joshua,

I don't know if this has been suggested, but to completely rule out the new
Declude 1.82 as the culprit could you revert to your previous version of
Declude, comment out the spamheaders test, and see if your CPU is still
maxed.

Marc

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua M. Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:28 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

John,

It took me a while to get these stats. I reviewed the SMTP logs for 12/4,
12/5, 12/7,  12/8. I know the server was running fine during this week.
Usage is as follows.

12/4 - 83,170 messages
12/5 - 82,065 messages
12/7 - 95,087 messages
12/8 - 95,730 messages

I reviewed the SMTP logs for the 1/2, 1/3,  1/4. These are current and
usage is as follows.

1/1 - 59,717 messages
1/2 - 63,795 messages
1/3 - 78,945 messages
1/4 - 79,410 messages

It appears as if the beginning of last month, when we were running fine, had
a lot more messages being delivered.

The only things I see in the log disturbing for today are:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.63.108.6=   1130 messages
  =   1068 messages 

I have an ipfile that I have set to automatically delete anything from the
ip 4.63.108.6 because they have been the top sender of the log for three
days. However, this messages is still being processed.


Matt,

Average SMTP log size is between 102MB to 200MB. This appears normal. The
drive that the logs were on wasn't severely fragmented however, I
de-fragmented it anyway. The drive that the spool directory is on is 86%
free but about 60% fragmented. This drive could be de-fragmented however,
I'm worried about de-fragmenting while the CPU is at 100%.


Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:17 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

The CPU spike is probably do to sheer volume.

What is the current volume of messages being processed?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua M. Hughes
 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:22 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix
 
 I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU
has
 been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
 Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still
maxed.
 I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
 smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
 100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
 delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up.
This
 narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly
what
 is causing the increase in processor usage. Under the assumption this was
 caused by one of my few minor changes before the New Year I reversed all
 changes made the week before the New Year. Still the processor is maxed
out.
 Any thoughts, any ideas? I don't want to go through and comment out each
 test one at a time to find which the offender is.
 
 Thank you,
 Joshua
 Sunline Team
 (941) 206-7870
 
 http://www.sunline.net/
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:18 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix
 
 Hi, Scott, et.al,
 I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes
of
 doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog
down.
 I don't know if I'm getting his with a new wave of spam and the server's
 straining to keep up or if there might be something in the new Declude
code
 which would cause the .EXE to not run as quickly or as efficiently as
 before.
 
 I'm not pointing fingers.  I just wanted to know if there's been any
 possible performance changes because of the bug fix.  If not I'll look
 somewhere else.
 
 Thanks In Advance,
 Dan Geiser
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU has
been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still maxed.
I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up. This
narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly what
is causing the increase in processor usage. Under the assumption this was
caused by one of my few minor changes before the New Year I reversed all
changes made the week before the New Year. Still the processor is maxed out.
Any thoughts, any ideas? I don't want to go through and comment out each
test one at a time to find which the offender is.

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:18 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

Hi, Scott, et.al,
I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes of
doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog down.
I don't know if I'm getting his with a new wave of spam and the server's
straining to keep up or if there might be something in the new Declude code
which would cause the .EXE to not run as quickly or as efficiently as
before.

I'm not pointing fingers.  I just wanted to know if there's been any
possible performance changes because of the bug fix.  If not I'll look
somewhere else.

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU has
been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still maxed.
I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up. This
narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly what
is causing the increase in processor usage.
When you go to the Process tab in the Task Manager, and click on the CPU 
button, which process(es) are nearest to the top?

Note that this should not be related to the SPAMHEADERS issue.
Did you make any changes to the Declude configuration recently (such as 
adding filters, which can eat up CPU time, depending on what they do and 
how they are designed)?

I don't want to go through and comment out each test one at a time to find 
which the offender is.
If it does come to that, you can do it the binary way.  First, comment 
out 1/2 the tests.  If the problem continues, uncomment the ones you just 
commented out, and comment out 1/2 of the ones that you did not comment out 
(if the problem does not continue, do the opposite -- uncomment 1/2 of the 
ones that you commented out originally).  If you have 30 tests, you'll only 
have to do this 5 times.  The drawback is that during the few minutes you 
are doing this, spam is more likely to come through.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
The CPU spike is probably do to sheer volume.

What is the current volume of messages being processed?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua M. Hughes
 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:22 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix
 
 I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU
has
 been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
 Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still
maxed.
 I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
 smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
 100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
 delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up.
This
 narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly
what
 is causing the increase in processor usage. Under the assumption this was
 caused by one of my few minor changes before the New Year I reversed all
 changes made the week before the New Year. Still the processor is maxed
out.
 Any thoughts, any ideas? I don't want to go through and comment out each
 test one at a time to find which the offender is.
 
 Thank you,
 Joshua
 Sunline Team
 (941) 206-7870
 
 http://www.sunline.net/
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:18 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix
 
 Hi, Scott, et.al,
 I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes
of
 doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog
down.
 I don't know if I'm getting his with a new wave of spam and the server's
 straining to keep up or if there might be something in the new Declude
code
 which would cause the .EXE to not run as quickly or as efficiently as
 before.
 
 I'm not pointing fingers.  I just wanted to know if there's been any
 possible performance changes because of the bug fix.  If not I'll look
 somewhere else.
 
 Thanks In Advance,
 Dan Geiser
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Have you added a lot of filters?  These tend to run up the CPU.  Are you 
currently experiencing a dictionary attack?  Are you still seeing a normal 
mail pattern? 

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Joshua M. Hughes writes: 

I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU has
been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still maxed.
I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up. This
narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly what
is causing the increase in processor usage. Under the assumption this was
caused by one of my few minor changes before the New Year I reversed all
changes made the week before the New Year. Still the processor is maxed out.
Any thoughts, any ideas? I don't want to go through and comment out each
test one at a time to find which the offender is. 

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:18 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix 

Hi, Scott, et.al,
I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes of
doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog down.
I don't know if I'm getting his with a new wave of spam and the server's
straining to keep up or if there might be something in the new Declude code
which would cause the .EXE to not run as quickly or as efficiently as
before. 

I'm not pointing fingers.  I just wanted to know if there's been any
possible performance changes because of the bug fix.  If not I'll look
somewhere else. 

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
Sorted by CPU the system process is first and second is a toss up between
declude, smtpd32, and queuemgr followed by as many as 16 simultaneous
instances of declude with cpu between 1 and 4. 
The system is running at 45 to 60 and at times Declude shows up first
between 45 and 60. When I change the delivery application to smtp32.exe the
system process drops between 8 to 11 and finally the top of the list is the
system idle process. 

No knew filters have been added.  

In the global.cfg file there was a whitelisted address and a whitelisted
domain. For the whitelisted domain I created a folder in the imail\delcude 
Folder for that domain with a blank $default$.junkmail. For the one
whitelisted address a I created a folder for that domain in the
imail\declude folder with the $default$.junkmail copy not blank and
created a blank user.junkmail file for that user. These changes have been
reversed and still have not solved the issue.

Does creating a domain folder with a blank $default$.junkamil file, as
compared to whitelisting a domain in the global.cfg, use more processing
power?

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:02 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix


I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU has
been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still maxed.
I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up. This
narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly what
is causing the increase in processor usage.

When you go to the Process tab in the Task Manager, and click on the CPU 
button, which process(es) are nearest to the top?

Note that this should not be related to the SPAMHEADERS issue.

Did you make any changes to the Declude configuration recently (such as 
adding filters, which can eat up CPU time, depending on what they do and 
how they are designed)?

I don't want to go through and comment out each test one at a time to find 
which the offender is.

If it does come to that, you can do it the binary way.  First, comment 
out 1/2 the tests.  If the problem continues, uncomment the ones you just 
commented out, and comment out 1/2 of the ones that you did not comment out 
(if the problem does not continue, do the opposite -- uncomment 1/2 of the 
ones that you commented out originally).  If you have 30 tests, you'll only 
have to do this 5 times.  The drawback is that during the few minutes you 
are doing this, spam is more likely to come through.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
I am currently seeing a normal mail pattern. The Imail Daily report actually
reported slightly less smtp deliveries yesterday than normal. 

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:40 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

Have you added a lot of filters?  These tend to run up the CPU.  Are you 
currently experiencing a dictionary attack?  Are you still seeing a normal 
mail pattern? 

Darrell 

 
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Joshua M. Hughes writes: 

 I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU
has
 been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
 Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still
maxed.
 I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
 smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
 100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
 delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up.
This
 narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly
what
 is causing the increase in processor usage. Under the assumption this was
 caused by one of my few minor changes before the New Year I reversed all
 changes made the week before the New Year. Still the processor is maxed
out.
 Any thoughts, any ideas? I don't want to go through and comment out each
 test one at a time to find which the offender is. 
 
 Thank you,
 Joshua
 Sunline Team
 (941) 206-7870
  
 http://www.sunline.net/
  
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:18 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix 
 
 Hi, Scott, et.al,
 I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes
of
 doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog
down.
 I don't know if I'm getting his with a new wave of spam and the server's
 straining to keep up or if there might be something in the new Declude
code
 which would cause the .EXE to not run as quickly or as efficiently as
 before. 
 
 I'm not pointing fingers.  I just wanted to know if there's been any
 possible performance changes because of the bug fix.  If not I'll look
 somewhere else. 
 
 Thanks In Advance,
 Dan Geiser
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread R. Scott Perry

Sorted by CPU the system process is first and second is a toss up between
declude, smtpd32, and queuemgr followed by as many as 16 simultaneous
instances of declude with cpu between 1 and 4.
That normal indicates an above average volume of mail (or, in other words, 
the system is at full capacity).

However, the fact that shutting off Declude lowers the CPU usage to 13-20% 
would indicate that Declude is using more CPU time than it normally should 
(which could be normal, depending on what filters you have set up).

Does creating a domain folder with a blank $default$.junkamil file, as
compared to whitelisting a domain in the global.cfg, use more processing
power?
No, both will use almost exactly the same amount of CPU time.
   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
It is normal to see Declude spike from time to time.  If you are seeing a 
lot of Declude processes just sitting there in your task manager using very 
little to no CPU I would check to make sure your not using any RBL's that 
are old or just check in general that your DNS server is responding to RBL 
query's. 

Do you see anything out of the ordinary in your logs? 

Darrell 

Joshua M. Hughes writes: 

Sorted by CPU the system process is first and second is a toss up between
declude, smtpd32, and queuemgr followed by as many as 16 simultaneous
instances of declude with cpu between 1 and 4. 
The system is running at 45 to 60 and at times Declude shows up first
between 45 and 60. When I change the delivery application to smtp32.exe the
system process drops between 8 to 11 and finally the top of the list is the
system idle process.  

No knew filters have been added.   

In the global.cfg file there was a whitelisted address and a whitelisted
domain. For the whitelisted domain I created a folder in the imail\delcude 
Folder for that domain with a blank $default$.junkmail. For the one
whitelisted address a I created a folder for that domain in the
imail\declude folder with the $default$.junkmail copy not blank and
created a blank user.junkmail file for that user. These changes have been
reversed and still have not solved the issue. 

Does creating a domain folder with a blank $default$.junkamil file, as
compared to whitelisting a domain in the global.cfg, use more processing
power? 

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:02 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix 


I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU has
been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still maxed.
I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up. This
narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly what
is causing the increase in processor usage.
When you go to the Process tab in the Task Manager, and click on the CPU 
button, which process(es) are nearest to the top? 

Note that this should not be related to the SPAMHEADERS issue. 

Did you make any changes to the Declude configuration recently (such as 
adding filters, which can eat up CPU time, depending on what they do and 
how they are designed)? 

I don't want to go through and comment out each test one at a time to find 
which the offender is.
If it does come to that, you can do it the binary way.  First, comment 
out 1/2 the tests.  If the problem continues, uncomment the ones you just 
commented out, and comment out 1/2 of the ones that you did not comment out 
(if the problem does not continue, do the opposite -- uncomment 1/2 of the 
ones that you commented out originally).  If you have 30 tests, you'll only 
have to do this 5 times.  The drawback is that during the few minutes you 
are doing this, spam is more likely to come through. 

-Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread Matt




What about the size of the log files before and after. It would be
helpful to post both the IMail and JunkMail log file sizes as this will
give an idea about the volume. I'm not sure that the SMTP deliveries
number reflects spam and viruses that Declude blocks.

Another thing that would be helpful to know is what external tests you
have configured in Declude (Sniffer, etc.).

Note that it is expected that having Declude enabled will dramatically
increase your CPU utilization. In short you are adding one or more
virus scanners to the mix and also a ton of DNS lookups and other
filters. Having CPU utilization increase without a change in volume
(not yet ruled out) or the filters used however points to there being
something wrong, but most likely not something wrong with Declude
itself.

Matt



Joshua M. Hughes wrote:

  I am currently seeing a normal mail pattern. The Imail Daily report actually
reported slightly less smtp deliveries yesterday than normal. 

Thank you,
Joshua
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:40 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

Have you added a lot of filters?  These tend to run up the CPU.  Are you 
currently experiencing a dictionary attack?  Are you still seeing a normal 
mail pattern? 

Darrell 

 
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Joshua M. Hughes writes: 

  
  
I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU

  
  has
  
  
been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still

  
  maxed.
  
  
I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up.

  
  This
  
  
narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly

  
  what
  
  
is causing the increase in processor usage. Under the assumption this was
caused by one of my few minor changes before the New Year I reversed all
changes made the week before the New Year. Still the processor is maxed

  
  out.
  
  
Any thoughts, any ideas? I don't want to go through and comment out each
test one at a time to find which the offender is. 

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:18 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix 

Hi, Scott, et.al,
I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes

  
  of
  
  
doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog

  
  down.
  
  
I don't know if I'm getting his with a new wave of spam and the server's
straining to keep up or if there might be something in the new Declude

  
  code
  
  
which would cause the .EXE to not run as quickly or as efficiently as
before. 

I'm not pointing fingers.  I just wanted to know if there's been any
possible performance changes because of the bug fix.  If not I'll look
somewhere else. 

Thanks In Advance,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Joshua, if I remember correctly, the IMail daily report shows you the
number of messages inbound to your mailserver, but it does not show the
number of recipients.

You may be getting hit with a dictionary attack.  Others on this list
have seen this before in various guises.  On my own mailserver, I've
seen a large increase in the number of targeted addresses for each spam
message.  Declude will run through most (all?) of your configuration for
each addressee on a message.

Is your mailserver a gateway, or are the mailboxes local to that server?
In other words, do you have envelope rejection?

If the mailboxes are local, then you do have envelope rejection and you
don't have to worry about extra processing time due to bogus addresses
generated by the spammer.  Then you're back to trying Scott's suggestion
for doing a binary search for slow external tests or slow DNS tests.

Oh, two other suggestions:

Do a disk defrag, and check for swollen log sizes.  On a busy server,
adding a few lines of logging text to the end of a 30 MB file takes
longer than you would want, and is exacerbated by a fragmented log file.

Also, if you're using the SPF tests, check the size of your:

c:\declude.log
c:\spf.log
c:\spf.none

files, which will continuously grow.  Because they do not have
dated-based names, if you don't delete them, they will just get bigger.

I'm now running v1.82 and those files are no longer being created.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua M.
Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:44 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix - 


Sorted by CPU the system process is first and second is a toss up
between declude, smtpd32, and queuemgr followed by as many as 16
simultaneous instances of declude with cpu between 1 and 4. 
The system is running at 45 to 60 and at times Declude shows up first
between 45 and 60. When I change the delivery application to smtp32.exe
the system process drops between 8 to 11 and finally the top of the list
is the system idle process. 

No knew filters have been added.  

In the global.cfg file there was a whitelisted address and a whitelisted
domain. For the whitelisted domain I created a folder in the
imail\delcude 
Folder for that domain with a blank $default$.junkmail. For the one
whitelisted address a I created a folder for that domain in the
imail\declude folder with the $default$.junkmail copy not blank and
created a blank user.junkmail file for that user. These changes have
been reversed and still have not solved the issue.

Does creating a domain folder with a blank $default$.junkamil file, as
compared to whitelisting a domain in the global.cfg, use more processing
power?

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:02 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix


I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU

has been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the

New Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is 
still maxed. I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application 
from declude.exe to smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the 
processing dropped from 100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the 
declude.exe back in as the delivery application and the processor 
utilization shot right back up. This narrows it down to declude 
however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly what is causing the 
increase in processor usage.

When you go to the Process tab in the Task Manager, and click on the CPU

button, which process(es) are nearest to the top?

Note that this should not be related to the SPAMHEADERS issue.

Did you make any changes to the Declude configuration recently (such as 
adding filters, which can eat up CPU time, depending on what they do and

how they are designed)?

I don't want to go through and comment out each test one at a time to 
find
which the offender is.

If it does come to that, you can do it the binary way.  First, comment

out 1/2 the tests.  If the problem continues, uncomment the ones you
just 
commented out, and comment out 1/2 of the ones that you did not comment
out 
(if the problem does not continue, do the opposite -- uncomment 1/2 of
the 
ones that you commented out originally).  If you have 30 tests, you'll
only 
have to do this 5 times.  The drawback is that during the few minutes
you 
are doing this, spam is more likely to come through.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
The mailboxes are local to the server. We're really not using many external
tests unless you consider the several Filters an IPfile and a couple of
fromfiles and spamdomains external. Other than that, all dns tests and
predefined tests. I have not noticed a large increase in log file size. I
looked at the log file size for both declude and smtp and they look pretty
close to usual. Looks like I'm going to start the binary way...

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:29 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix - 

Joshua, if I remember correctly, the IMail daily report shows you the
number of messages inbound to your mailserver, but it does not show the
number of recipients.

You may be getting hit with a dictionary attack.  Others on this list
have seen this before in various guises.  On my own mailserver, I've
seen a large increase in the number of targeted addresses for each spam
message.  Declude will run through most (all?) of your configuration for
each addressee on a message.

Is your mailserver a gateway, or are the mailboxes local to that server?
In other words, do you have envelope rejection?

If the mailboxes are local, then you do have envelope rejection and you
don't have to worry about extra processing time due to bogus addresses
generated by the spammer.  Then you're back to trying Scott's suggestion
for doing a binary search for slow external tests or slow DNS tests.

Oh, two other suggestions:

Do a disk defrag, and check for swollen log sizes.  On a busy server,
adding a few lines of logging text to the end of a 30 MB file takes
longer than you would want, and is exacerbated by a fragmented log file.

Also, if you're using the SPF tests, check the size of your:

c:\declude.log
c:\spf.log
c:\spf.none

files, which will continuously grow.  Because they do not have
dated-based names, if you don't delete them, they will just get bigger.

I'm now running v1.82 and those files are no longer being created.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua M.
Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:44 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix - 


Sorted by CPU the system process is first and second is a toss up
between declude, smtpd32, and queuemgr followed by as many as 16
simultaneous instances of declude with cpu between 1 and 4. 
The system is running at 45 to 60 and at times Declude shows up first
between 45 and 60. When I change the delivery application to smtp32.exe
the system process drops between 8 to 11 and finally the top of the list
is the system idle process. 

No knew filters have been added.  

In the global.cfg file there was a whitelisted address and a whitelisted
domain. For the whitelisted domain I created a folder in the
imail\delcude 
Folder for that domain with a blank $default$.junkmail. For the one
whitelisted address a I created a folder for that domain in the
imail\declude folder with the $default$.junkmail copy not blank and
created a blank user.junkmail file for that user. These changes have
been reversed and still have not solved the issue.

Does creating a domain folder with a blank $default$.junkamil file, as
compared to whitelisting a domain in the global.cfg, use more processing
power?

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:02 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix


I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU

has been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the

New Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is 
still maxed. I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application 
from declude.exe to smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the 
processing dropped from 100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the 
declude.exe back in as the delivery application and the processor 
utilization shot right back up. This narrows it down to declude 
however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly what is causing the 
increase in processor usage.

When you go to the Process tab in the Task Manager, and click on the CPU

button, which process(es) are nearest to the top?

Note that this should not be related to the SPAMHEADERS issue.

Did you make any changes to the Declude configuration recently (such as 
adding filters, which can eat up CPU time, depending on what they do and

how they are designed)?

I don't want to go through and comment out each test one at a time to 
find
which the offender is.

If it does come to that, you can do

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Matt




That would rule out an increase in volume, and also the potential of a
bug with an external test. So if in fact no other changes were made
as far as filters go, I would look at your system next (make absolutely
sure that this is correct). Check the fragmentation on all partitions
and defrag everything (multiple times until almost perfect). The way
that IMail and Declude logs creates massively fragmented files, and
even if you have a lot of disk space left over, the entire partition
might be filled with fragments causing excessive slowdowns. If you are
running RAID 5 or some sort of mirror, make sure that you aren't down a
drive because that can cause similar slowdowns. Please also post the
standard size of your IMail log just to give an impression of the
volume that you are doing.

Matt



Joshua M. Hughes wrote:

  The mailboxes are local to the server. We're really not using many external
tests unless you consider the several Filters an IPfile and a couple of
fromfiles and spamdomains external. Other than that, all dns tests and
predefined tests. I have not noticed a large increase in log file size. I
looked at the log file size for both declude and smtp and they look pretty
close to usual. Looks like I'm going to start the "binary way"...

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:29 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix - 

Joshua, if I remember correctly, the IMail daily report shows you the
number of messages inbound to your mailserver, but it does not show the
number of recipients.

You may be getting hit with a "dictionary attack".  Others on this list
have seen this before in various guises.  On my own mailserver, I've
seen a large increase in the number of targeted addresses for each spam
message.  Declude will run through most (all?) of your configuration for
each addressee on a message.

Is your mailserver a gateway, or are the mailboxes local to that server?
In other words, do you have envelope rejection?

If the mailboxes are local, then you do have envelope rejection and you
don't have to worry about extra processing time due to bogus addresses
generated by the spammer.  Then you're back to trying Scott's suggestion
for doing a "binary search" for slow external tests or slow DNS tests.

Oh, two other suggestions:

Do a disk defrag, and check for swollen log sizes.  On a busy server,
adding a few lines of logging text to the end of a 30 MB file takes
longer than you would want, and is exacerbated by a fragmented log file.

Also, if you're using the SPF tests, check the size of your:

c:\declude.log
c:\spf.log
c:\spf.none

files, which will continuously grow.  Because they do not have
dated-based names, if you don't delete them, they will just get bigger.

I'm now running v1.82 and those files are no longer being created.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joshua M.
Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:44 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix - 


Sorted by CPU the system process is first and second is a toss up
between declude, smtpd32, and queuemgr followed by as many as 16
simultaneous instances of declude with cpu between 1 and 4. 
The system is running at 45 to 60 and at times Declude shows up first
between 45 and 60. When I change the delivery application to smtp32.exe
the system process drops between 8 to 11 and finally the top of the list
is the system idle process. 

No knew filters have been added.  

In the global.cfg file there was a whitelisted address and a whitelisted
domain. For the whitelisted domain I created a folder in the
imail\delcude 
Folder for that domain with a blank $default$.junkmail. For the one
whitelisted address a I created a folder for that domain in the
imail\declude folder with the $default$.junkmail "copy not blank" and
created a blank user.junkmail file for that user. These changes have
been reversed and still have not solved the issue.

Does creating a domain folder with a blank $default$.junkamil file, as
compared to whitelisting a domain in the global.cfg, use more processing
power?

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:02 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix


  
  
I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU

  
  
  
  
has been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the

  
  
  
  
New Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is 
st

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
John,

It took me a while to get these stats. I reviewed the SMTP logs for 12/4,
12/5, 12/7,  12/8. I know the server was running fine during this week.
Usage is as follows.

12/4 - 83,170 messages
12/5 - 82,065 messages
12/7 - 95,087 messages
12/8 - 95,730 messages

I reviewed the SMTP logs for the 1/2, 1/3,  1/4. These are current and
usage is as follows.

1/1 - 59,717 messages
1/2 - 63,795 messages
1/3 - 78,945 messages
1/4 - 79,410 messages

It appears as if the beginning of last month, when we were running fine, had
a lot more messages being delivered.

The only things I see in the log disturbing for today are:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.63.108.6=   1130 messages
  =   1068 messages 

I have an ipfile that I have set to automatically delete anything from the
ip 4.63.108.6 because they have been the top sender of the log for three
days. However, this messages is still being processed.


Matt,

Average SMTP log size is between 102MB to 200MB. This appears normal. The
drive that the logs were on wasn't severely fragmented however, I
de-fragmented it anyway. The drive that the spool directory is on is 86%
free but about 60% fragmented. This drive could be de-fragmented however,
I'm worried about de-fragmenting while the CPU is at 100%.


Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:17 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

The CPU spike is probably do to sheer volume.

What is the current volume of messages being processed?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua M. Hughes
 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:22 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix
 
 I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU
has
 been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
 Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still
maxed.
 I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
 smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
 100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
 delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up.
This
 narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly
what
 is causing the increase in processor usage. Under the assumption this was
 caused by one of my few minor changes before the New Year I reversed all
 changes made the week before the New Year. Still the processor is maxed
out.
 Any thoughts, any ideas? I don't want to go through and comment out each
 test one at a time to find which the offender is.
 
 Thank you,
 Joshua
 Sunline Team
 (941) 206-7870
 
 http://www.sunline.net/
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:18 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix
 
 Hi, Scott, et.al,
 I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes
of
 doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog
down.
 I don't know if I'm getting his with a new wave of spam and the server's
 straining to keep up or if there might be something in the new Declude
code
 which would cause the .EXE to not run as quickly or as efficiently as
 before.
 
 I'm not pointing fingers.  I just wanted to know if there's been any
 possible performance changes because of the bug fix.  If not I'll look
 somewhere else.
 
 Thanks In Advance,
 Dan Geiser
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Matt




A 200 MB normal IMail log file (not set to verbose or debug) would
correspond to more than 200,000 messages on my system. I don't log
POP3 stuff though, so that might also explain the difference.

Please zip up yesterday's Declude JunkMail log and post it to a Web
site somewhere and send me the link off-list and I will stats on it to
determine how many messages that Declude processed. I'm still
suspecting volume might be the issue, and it is generally the most
likely culprit and deserves extra attention.

It could be that you have a customer bulk-mailing through your server.
People get a copy of Microsoft Office these days and set up their own
newsletters using their provider's SMTP server.

I don't believe that 60% fragmentation would cause a significant
slowdown, though you would get slightly better performance when
defraged, so do that regularly and as soon as it makes sense.

Just to keep one step ahead, why don't you indicate which virus
scanners you are running (with versions) and confirm your settings in
Declude Virus for "PRESCAN" being ON or OFF.

Matt



Joshua M. Hughes wrote:

  John,

It took me a while to get these stats. I reviewed the SMTP logs for 12/4,
12/5, 12/7,  12/8. I know the server was running fine during this week.
Usage is as follows.

12/4 - 83,170 messages
12/5 - 82,065 messages
12/7 - 95,087 messages
12/8 - 95,730 messages

I reviewed the SMTP logs for the 1/2, 1/3,  1/4. These are current and
usage is as follows.

1/1 - 59,717 messages
1/2 - 63,795 messages
1/3 - 78,945 messages
1/4 - 79,410 messages

It appears as if the beginning of last month, when we were running fine, had
a lot more messages being delivered.

The only things I see in the log disturbing for today are:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.63.108.6	=	1130 messages
	=	1068 messages 

I have an ipfile that I have set to automatically delete anything from the
ip 4.63.108.6 because they have been the top sender of the log for three
days. However, this messages is still being processed.


Matt,

Average SMTP log size is between 102MB to 200MB. This appears normal. The
drive that the logs were on wasn't severely fragmented however, I
de-fragmented it anyway. The drive that the spool directory is on is 86%
free but about 60% fragmented. This drive could be de-fragmented however,
I'm worried about de-fragmenting while the CPU is at 100%.


Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870
 
http://www.sunline.net/
 

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(Lists)
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:17 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

The CPU spike is probably do to sheer volume.

What is the current volume of messages being processed?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


  
  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joshua M. Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:22 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU

  
  has
  
  
been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New
Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still

  
  maxed.
  
  
I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to
smtp32.exe and restarted the SMTP service and the processing dropped from
100% to approximately 13% - 20%. I placed the declude.exe back in as the
delivery application and the processor utilization shot right back up.

  
  This
  
  
narrows it down to declude however, I have not yet pin pointed exactly

  
  what
  
  
is causing the increase in processor usage. Under the assumption this was
caused by one of my few minor changes before the New Year I reversed all
changes made the week before the New Year. Still the processor is maxed

  
  out.
  
  
Any thoughts, any ideas? I don't want to go through and comment out each
test one at a time to find which the offender is.

Thank you,
Joshua
Sunline Team
(941) 206-7870

http://www.sunline.net/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:18 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

Hi, Scott, et.al,
I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes

  
  of
  
  
doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog

  
  down.
  
  
I don't know if I'm getting his with a new wave of spam and the server's
straining to keep up or if there might be something in the new Declude

  
  code
  
  
which would cause the .EXE to not run as quickly or as efficiently as
before.

I'm not pointing fingers.  I just wanted to know if there'

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Dave Doherty
Joshua-
How many files do you have in your spool? Anytime I've had this problem 
there has been a corresponding increase in the spool contents.

I agree with Matt that it may well be a user sending high volumes of SMTP 
traffic through your server. It doesn't have to be a lot of messages, but if 
they are very large that can cause problems.  We have a bunch of employment 
and temp agencies, and they cause us trouble sometimes because they tend to 
send large attachments.

Also look for a dictionary attack against a domain with a nobody alias.
-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, inc. 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-04 Thread Matt
This appears to be working as desired.  Thanks!
Matt

Barry Simpson wrote:
All of the input and suggestions as to how issues like this could be handled
has been noted and I thank you for your input
We will be posting the updated, fixed .exe on our site tomorrow. For those
who have current service agreements please feel free to download it now from
the following link.
For those who are running an older system without a Service Agreement please
email us your version and contact details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will
arrange an alternative version.
http://www.declude.com/version/182/declude.zip
1. Replace current declude.exe with this declude executable
2. At command prompt go to your IMail Directory
3. Type Declude and enter - it should show version 1.82
Barry
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-04 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes of
doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog down.
Were you running v1.81 before, or a different version?
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-04 Thread Dan Geiser
Hi, Scott, et.al,
I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes of
doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog down.
I don't know if I'm getting his with a new wave of spam and the server's
straining to keep up or if there might be something in the new Declude code
which would cause the .EXE to not run as quickly or as efficiently as
before.

I'm not pointing fingers.  I just wanted to know if there's been any
possible performance changes because of the bug fix.  If not I'll look
somewhere else.

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-04 Thread Dan Geiser
Scott,
I was running 1.81.

Thanks,
Dan

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 I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes
of
 doing this upgrade I've noticed that my mail server has started to bog
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 Were you running v1.81 before, or a different version?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-04 Thread Dan Horne
I moved from 1.81 to 1.82 this morning and I am not seeing any extra cpu
load, so it doesn't seem to be universal. 

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Scott,
I was running 1.81.

Thanks,
Dan

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 I have upgraded to the new Declude.exe v1.82.  Within a matter of minutes
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 Were you running v1.81 before, or a different version?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-04 Thread Sharyn Schmidt


I moved from 1.81 to 1.82 this morning and I am not seeing any extra cpu
load, so it doesn't seem to be universal. 



I moved from the last full release..1.75? To 1.82 this morning and things
seem fine  here.

Sharyn


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[Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-03 Thread Barry Simpson
All of the input and suggestions as to how issues like this could be handled
has been noted and I thank you for your input

We will be posting the updated, fixed .exe on our site tomorrow. For those
who have current service agreements please feel free to download it now from
the following link.

For those who are running an older system without a Service Agreement please
email us your version and contact details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will
arrange an alternative version.

http://www.declude.com/version/182/declude.zip
 
 
1. Replace current declude.exe with this declude executable
2. At command prompt go to your IMail Directory
3. Type Declude and enter - it should show version 1.82

Barry


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-03 Thread Darin Cox
Thanks Barry and Scott... much appreciated!  I'm sure all of the customers,
on and off of service agreements appreciate you making appropriate versions
with fixes available to them.

Darin.


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From: Barry Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:11 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix


All of the input and suggestions as to how issues like this could be handled
has been noted and I thank you for your input

We will be posting the updated, fixed .exe on our site tomorrow. For those
who have current service agreements please feel free to download it now from
the following link.

For those who are running an older system without a Service Agreement please
email us your version and contact details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will
arrange an alternative version.

http://www.declude.com/version/182/declude.zip


1. Replace current declude.exe with this declude executable
2. At command prompt go to your IMail Directory
3. Type Declude and enter - it should show version 1.82

Barry


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