Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues
On 2 Mar 2005 at 18:07, Darin Cox wrote: Hi Darin, 2.05 will pass email that should have been deleted. The total weight may be 3 times your delete weight and the email will still be delivered. Declude tech support is aware of the problem - and as far as I know it is unresolved. I am back to 1.82 -Nick Repost. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues Great response to the concerns, David. Much appreciated. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? Thanks, Darin. - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues No issue reported to us regarding Declude software will ever be considered trivial or unimportant. It is essential that all issues be reported to Declude Support. A number of comments made recently on these lists refer to issues never reported to Declude. It should also be understood that the Declude forums are very informative for finding out from others whether they have experienced similar issues with the software. They are not, however, intended to be a mechanism for reporting problems to us. We have been monitoring the list messages regarding the DELETE action when there is a COPYALL account and we are concerned as to perceptions that there is a problem or issue with the software. There is a difference of opinion on how a COPYALL account should actually function: (a) to receive a copy of every message processed by the mail server, whether legitimate or not; (b) to receive a copy of only those messages for which there is at least one valid delivery. Aside from differing opinions on how the COPYALL account should function, our tests show that individual recipients whose per-user configurations specified DELETE were in fact being deleted from the recipient list and were not receiving the messages. At the same time, however, we discovered that there was information in the log file that would lead one to believe that the recipient was not being deleted. If the last recipient did not have DELETE as the action to take, the last action in the log file would not read DELETE, even if the previous recipient had been deleted. We are making the appropriate changes to the log file to ensure that all actions taken will be accurately recorded. In addition, we are implementing a configurable parameter to allow or disallow actions to apply to the COPYALL account. This release will be available after user testing and acceptance. It is important to know that we respond to each and every issue raised through our support system and also that when making a quote as to what 'Declude' may have said that the correct words are used within the appropriate context. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues
It would be nice Declude would post this information instead of ignoring requests or using not a priority as a result. The DELETE action is not taking the action it should. We too have reverted back to 1.82 as this version seems to be steady for us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:27 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues On 2 Mar 2005 at 18:07, Darin Cox wrote: Hi Darin, 2.05 will pass email that should have been deleted. The total weight may be 3 times your delete weight and the email will still be delivered. Declude tech support is aware of the problem - and as far as I know it is unresolved. I am back to 1.82 -Nick Repost. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues Great response to the concerns, David. Much appreciated. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? Thanks, Darin. - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues No issue reported to us regarding Declude software will ever be considered trivial or unimportant. It is essential that all issues be reported to Declude Support. A number of comments made recently on these lists refer to issues never reported to Declude. It should also be understood that the Declude forums are very informative for finding out from others whether they have experienced similar issues with the software. They are not, however, intended to be a mechanism for reporting problems to us. We have been monitoring the list messages regarding the DELETE action when there is a COPYALL account and we are concerned as to perceptions that there is a problem or issue with the software. There is a difference of opinion on how a COPYALL account should actually function: (a) to receive a copy of every message processed by the mail server, whether legitimate or not; (b) to receive a copy of only those messages for which there is at least one valid delivery. Aside from differing opinions on how the COPYALL account should function, our tests show that individual recipients whose per-user configurations specified DELETE were in fact being deleted from the recipient list and were not receiving the messages. At the same time, however, we discovered that there was information in the log file that would lead one to believe that the recipient was not being deleted. If the last recipient did not have DELETE as the action to take, the last action in the log file would not read DELETE, even if the previous recipient had been deleted. We are making the appropriate changes to the log file to ensure that all actions taken will be accurately recorded. In addition, we are implementing a configurable parameter to allow or disallow actions to apply to the COPYALL account. This release will be available after user testing and acceptance. It is important to know that we respond to each and every issue raised through our support system and also that when making a quote as to what 'Declude' may have said that the correct words are used within the appropriate context. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues
Hi, I just was contacted by Declude and provided various config files. Apparently my support@ email from last night was not received, possibly related to the server problems they are having today. So, if you have been sending your problems to support and have not heard back, you may need to confirm receipt. Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ -Original Message- From: Erik Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:00 AM It would be nice Declude would post this information instead of ignoring requests or using not a priority as a result. The DELETE action is not taking the action it should. We too have reverted back to 1.82 as this version seems to be steady for us. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues
Don't know if this contributes anything, but I have noted one thing. At LOW logging in 2.0.5 for a message weighing more than the delete threshold, the dec.log shows L1 Message OK indicating it was ok for delivery, but will still be deleted. This is confirmed by looking at the sys.txt log. It didn't do that in 1.82 and earlier. There I got a single Tests failed line. I have no user config. John 03/03/2005 14:11:04 Q6f4a00480158fbbd L1 Message OK 03/03/2005 14:11:04 Q6f4a00480158fbbd Tests failed [weight=34]: NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE IPNOTINMX=IGNORE SBL=WARN SPAMCOP=WARN BADHEADERS=WARN SPAMHEADERS=WARN JCFILTER=DELETE SNIFFER=WARN WEIGHT10=SUBJECT WEIGHT20=DELETE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:27 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues On 2 Mar 2005 at 18:07, Darin Cox wrote: Hi Darin, 2.05 will pass email that should have been deleted. The total weight may be 3 times your delete weight and the email will still be delivered. Declude tech support is aware of the problem - and as far as I know it is unresolved. I am back to 1.82 -Nick Repost. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues Great response to the concerns, David. Much appreciated. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? Thanks, Darin. - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues No issue reported to us regarding Declude software will ever be considered trivial or unimportant. It is essential that all issues be reported to Declude Support. A number of comments made recently on these lists refer to issues never reported to Declude. It should also be understood that the Declude forums are very informative for finding out from others whether they have experienced similar issues with the software. They are not, however, intended to be a mechanism for reporting problems to us. We have been monitoring the list messages regarding the DELETE action when there is a COPYALL account and we are concerned as to perceptions that there is a problem or issue with the software. There is a difference of opinion on how a COPYALL account should actually function: (a) to receive a copy of every message processed by the mail server, whether legitimate or not; (b) to receive a copy of only those messages for which there is at least one valid delivery. Aside from differing opinions on how the COPYALL account should function, our tests show that individual recipients whose per-user configurations specified DELETE were in fact being deleted from the recipient list and were not receiving the messages. At the same time, however, we discovered that there was information in the log file that would lead one to believe that the recipient was not being deleted. If the last recipient did not have DELETE as the action to take, the last action in the log file would not read DELETE, even if the previous recipient had been deleted. We are making the appropriate changes to the log file to ensure that all actions taken will be accurately recorded. In addition, we are implementing a configurable parameter to allow or disallow actions to apply to the COPYALL account. This release will be available after user testing and acceptance. It is important to know that we respond to each and every issue raised through our support system and also that when making a quote as to what 'Declude' may have said that the correct words are used within the appropriate context. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues
Repost. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues Great response to the concerns, David. Much appreciated. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? Thanks, Darin. - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues No issue reported to us regarding Declude software will ever be considered trivial or unimportant. It is essential that all issues be reported to Declude Support. A number of comments made recently on these lists refer to issues never reported to Declude. It should also be understood that the Declude forums are very informative for finding out from others whether they have experienced similar issues with the software. They are not, however, intended to be a mechanism for reporting problems to us. We have been monitoring the list messages regarding the DELETE action when there is a COPYALL account and we are concerned as to perceptions that there is a problem or issue with the software. There is a difference of opinion on how a COPYALL account should actually function: (a) to receive a copy of every message processed by the mail server, whether legitimate or not; (b) to receive a copy of only those messages for which there is at least one valid delivery. Aside from differing opinions on how the COPYALL account should function, our tests show that individual recipients whose per-user configurations specified DELETE were in fact being deleted from the recipient list and were not receiving the messages. At the same time, however, we discovered that there was information in the log file that would lead one to believe that the recipient was not being deleted. If the last recipient did not have DELETE as the action to take, the last action in the log file would not read DELETE, even if the previous recipient had been deleted. We are making the appropriate changes to the log file to ensure that all actions taken will be accurately recorded. In addition, we are implementing a configurable parameter to allow or disallow actions to apply to the COPYALL account. This release will be available after user testing and acceptance. It is important to know that we respond to each and every issue raised through our support system and also that when making a quote as to what 'Declude' may have said that the correct words are used within the appropriate context. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues
I'd be curious too. I've made two attempts with the earlier pre 2.05 version to make the jump forward and have dropped back to 1.82 twice. It's made me a little gunshy. I'm not seeing a lot of votes of confidence on the list for 2.05... - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues Repost. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues Great response to the concerns, David. Much appreciated. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? Thanks, Darin. - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues No issue reported to us regarding Declude software will ever be considered trivial or unimportant. It is essential that all issues be reported to Declude Support. A number of comments made recently on these lists refer to issues never reported to Declude. It should also be understood that the Declude forums are very informative for finding out from others whether they have experienced similar issues with the software. They are not, however, intended to be a mechanism for reporting problems to us. We have been monitoring the list messages regarding the DELETE action when there is a COPYALL account and we are concerned as to perceptions that there is a problem or issue with the software. There is a difference of opinion on how a COPYALL account should actually function: (a) to receive a copy of every message processed by the mail server, whether legitimate or not; (b) to receive a copy of only those messages for which there is at least one valid delivery. Aside from differing opinions on how the COPYALL account should function, our tests show that individual recipients whose per-user configurations specified DELETE were in fact being deleted from the recipient list and were not receiving the messages. At the same time, however, we discovered that there was information in the log file that would lead one to believe that the recipient was not being deleted. If the last recipient did not have DELETE as the action to take, the last action in the log file would not read DELETE, even if the previous recipient had been deleted. We are making the appropriate changes to the log file to ensure that all actions taken will be accurately recorded. In addition, we are implementing a configurable parameter to allow or disallow actions to apply to the COPYALL account. This release will be available after user testing and acceptance. It is important to know that we respond to each and every issue raised through our support system and also that when making a quote as to what 'Declude' may have said that the correct words are used within the appropriate context. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues
No issue reported to us regarding Declude software will ever be considered trivial or unimportant. It is essential that all issues be reported to Declude Support. A number of comments made recently on these lists refer to issues never reported to Declude. It should also be understood that the Declude forums are very informative for finding out from others whether they have experienced similar issues with the software. They are not, however, intended to be a mechanism for reporting problems to us. We have been monitoring the list messages regarding the DELETE action when there is a COPYALL account and we are concerned as to perceptions that there is a problem or issue with the software. There is a difference of opinion on how a COPYALL account should actually function: (a) to receive a copy of every message processed by the mail server, whether legitimate or not; (b) to receive a copy of only those messages for which there is at least one valid delivery. Aside from differing opinions on how the COPYALL account should function, our tests show that individual recipients whose per-user configurations specified DELETE were in fact being deleted from the recipient list and were not receiving the messages. At the same time, however, we discovered that there was information in the log file that would lead one to believe that the recipient was not being deleted. If the last recipient did not have DELETE as the action to take, the last action in the log file would not read DELETE, even if the previous recipient had been deleted. We are making the appropriate changes to the log file to ensure that all actions taken will be accurately recorded. In addition, we are implementing a configurable parameter to allow or disallow actions to apply to the COPYALL account. This release will be available after user testing and acceptance. It is important to know that we respond to each and every issue raised through our support system and also that when making a quote as to what 'Declude' may have said that the correct words are used within the appropriate context. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues
Great response to the concerns, David. Much appreciated. Just to clarify: Other than the logging issue you referred to, are there any known issues with 2.05? If so, is there a list I can review to determine if we're ready to upgrade? Thanks, Darin. - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues No issue reported to us regarding Declude software will ever be considered trivial or unimportant. It is essential that all issues be reported to Declude Support. A number of comments made recently on these lists refer to issues never reported to Declude. It should also be understood that the Declude forums are very informative for finding out from others whether they have experienced similar issues with the software. They are not, however, intended to be a mechanism for reporting problems to us. We have been monitoring the list messages regarding the DELETE action when there is a COPYALL account and we are concerned as to perceptions that there is a problem or issue with the software. There is a difference of opinion on how a COPYALL account should actually function: (a) to receive a copy of every message processed by the mail server, whether legitimate or not; (b) to receive a copy of only those messages for which there is at least one valid delivery. Aside from differing opinions on how the COPYALL account should function, our tests show that individual recipients whose per-user configurations specified DELETE were in fact being deleted from the recipient list and were not receiving the messages. At the same time, however, we discovered that there was information in the log file that would lead one to believe that the recipient was not being deleted. If the last recipient did not have DELETE as the action to take, the last action in the log file would not read DELETE, even if the previous recipient had been deleted. We are making the appropriate changes to the log file to ensure that all actions taken will be accurately recorded. In addition, we are implementing a configurable parameter to allow or disallow actions to apply to the COPYALL account. This release will be available after user testing and acceptance. It is important to know that we respond to each and every issue raised through our support system and also that when making a quote as to what 'Declude' may have said that the correct words are used within the appropriate context. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues
Since we did use the essential means of reporting this problem, we still got back: No. Declude Confirm hasn't been changed in a number of years, so it is not currently a high priority. -Scott And: As for Declude Confirm, I understand that it is a priority for you. The reasons why it isn't a very high priority right now are that [1] it is a free program, and taking time to modify it takes away from time making changes to products our customers are paying for, and [2] this is an issue that has been in the Declude Confirm code for many years without anyone reporting it. Unfortunately, there are just too many things that need to be done, and not enough time for everything. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:43 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.0 Issues No issue reported to us regarding Declude software will ever be considered trivial or unimportant. It is essential that all issues be reported to Declude Support. A number of comments made recently on these lists refer to issues never reported to Declude. It should also be understood that the Declude forums are very informative for finding out from others whether they have experienced similar issues with the software. They are not, however, intended to be a mechanism for reporting problems to us. We have been monitoring the list messages regarding the DELETE action when there is a COPYALL account and we are concerned as to perceptions that there is a problem or issue with the software. There is a difference of opinion on how a COPYALL account should actually function: (a) to receive a copy of every message processed by the mail server, whether legitimate or not; (b) to receive a copy of only those messages for which there is at least one valid delivery. Aside from differing opinions on how the COPYALL account should function, our tests show that individual recipients whose per-user configurations specified DELETE were in fact being deleted from the recipient list and were not receiving the messages. At the same time, however, we discovered that there was information in the log file that would lead one to believe that the recipient was not being deleted. If the last recipient did not have DELETE as the action to take, the last action in the log file would not read DELETE, even if the previous recipient had been deleted. We are making the appropriate changes to the log file to ensure that all actions taken will be accurately recorded. In addition, we are implementing a configurable parameter to allow or disallow actions to apply to the COPYALL account. This release will be available after user testing and acceptance. It is important to know that we respond to each and every issue raised through our support system and also that when making a quote as to what 'Declude' may have said that the correct words are used within the appropriate context. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.