[Declude.JunkMail] ENVFROM test

2008-02-28 Thread declude

I could not find this test in the Junkmail Manual.  I have a customer who is
getting false negatives with this test.  I wanted to see what triggers this
but could not find any documentation.  Could someone please fill me in?

Thanks,
Don



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ENVFROM test

2008-02-28 Thread David Barker
MAILFROM

This test checks the SMTP envelope Mail From: address (which should be the
sender of the E-mail) and makes sure that the domain name it is coming from
is valid. This way, if mail is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED], it will
get caught (since $$$success$$$.com is not a valid domain).

David B

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I could not find this test in the Junkmail Manual.  I have a customer who is
getting false negatives with this test.  I wanted to see what triggers this
but could not find any documentation.  Could someone please fill me in?

Thanks,
Don



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] envfrom test

2004-01-01 Thread R. Scott Perry

Then how about a test to check if the MAILFROM is syntax correct, meaning
has some characters, the at sign, some characters, a period, and some more
characters?
This will be changed for the next release.  I can't think of any other 
reason (aside from bounces, using ) that an address without an @ 
would be used in the return address.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] envfrom test

2004-01-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Hello Scott.

FYI, I have seen some spam, maybe 5 out of 1500, that had only @ as the mail
from address. 

John Tolmachoff
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 Then how about a test to check if the MAILFROM is syntax correct, meaning
 has some characters, the at sign, some characters, a period, and some
 more
 characters?
 
 This will be changed for the next release.  I can't think of any other
 reason (aside from bounces, using ) that an address without an @
 would be used in the return address.
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] envfrom test

2003-12-31 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
How come this does not fail the MAILFROM (envfrom) test?

X-Declude-Sender: more [64.201.120.245]

John Tolmachoff
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] envfrom test

2003-12-31 Thread R. Scott Perry

How come this does not fail the MAILFROM (envfrom) test?

X-Declude-Sender: more [64.201.120.245]
Because Declude JunkMail automatically skips over usernames with no domains.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] envfrom test

2003-12-31 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Then how about a test to check if the MAILFROM is syntax correct, meaning
has some characters, the at sign, some characters, a period, and some more
characters?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

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 How come this does not fail the MAILFROM (envfrom) test?
 
 X-Declude-Sender: more [64.201.120.245]
 
 Because Declude JunkMail automatically skips over usernames with no
 domains.
 
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] envfrom test

2003-12-31 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 Then  how  about  a test to check if the MAILFROM is syntax correct,
 meaning has some characters, the at sign, some characters, a period,
 and some more characters?

Seems  to  me  that  this  would be appropriate to have as the default
envfrom  test  behavior, with a LOOSENENVFROM ON option in case admins
know  that  users  at  their  site  commonly  send  using  unqualified
usernames (which usually would be whitelistable using other means, yet
in either case should be very rare).

I  can't  think  of  a  reason  why external senders using unqualified
usernames should be presumed innocent. Can anyone?

--Sandy



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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] envfrom test

2003-12-31 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
In this war on spam, if it is not clean, it is not presumed innocent, IMHO.

John Tolmachoff
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  Then  how  about  a test to check if the MAILFROM is syntax correct,
  meaning has some characters, the at sign, some characters, a period,
  and some more characters?
 
 Seems  to  me  that  this  would be appropriate to have as the default
 envfrom  test  behavior, with a LOOSENENVFROM ON option in case admins
 know  that  users  at  their  site  commonly  send  using  unqualified
 usernames (which usually would be whitelistable using other means, yet
 in either case should be very rare).
 
 I  can't  think  of  a  reason  why external senders using unqualified
 usernames should be presumed innocent. Can anyone?
 
 --Sandy
 
 
 
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 Broadleaf Systems, a division of
 Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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