Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-07 Thread Terry Fritts
I do know that his bottom line was that Black Ice wouldn't do what I wanted, but he did try and sell me on the firewall and intrusion detection features. I have written on this previously. Black Ice does not stop dictionary attacks per se. It does test errors returned from Imail and if

Re: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-07 Thread R. Scott Perry
Perhaps this will be a duplicate question, but I'll address it to Scott... why can't JunkMail identify and stop dictionary attacks? It would seem like stopping dictionary attacks would be a primary function of anti-spam software. Stopping dictionary attacks isn't really within the primary scope

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Joe Wolf
really don't even know what I'm asking about here, but hopefully someone else will). -Joe - Original Message - From: Richard Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it? I had the exact same

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Kami Razvan
I did happen to talk to DigiHost yesterday and was told that they don't have any real spam filter, but they do have something in place that prevents dictionary attacks. Joe.. Check the archives on the topic of Dictionary attacks.. It has been covered in detail many times. One product that

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Jeff Kratka
For a firewall, would the regular version of Blackice work ok or is the Server version needed. Jeff Kratka * TymeWyse Internet P.O.Box 84 - 110 Ecklund St., Canyonville, OR 97417 tel/fax: (541) 839-6027 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Rick Klinge
Server version: http://blackice.iss.net/product_server_protection.php ~Rick For a firewall, would the regular version of Blackice work ok or is the Server version needed. ___ Virus Scanned and Filtered by

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread R. Scott Perry
For a firewall, would the regular version of Blackice work ok or is the Server version needed. My understanding is that BlackIce Server is the one that is required to help with dictionary attacks (since it deals with malicious inbound mail connections, which normally are not a problem with

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Jeff Kratka
Are there others suggestion for firewall software for the server. Does Zonealarm have a server version and if so does it work as well as Black Ice. Jeff Kratka * TymeWyse Internet P.O.Box 84 - 110 Ecklund St., Canyonville, OR 97417 tel/fax:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it? Server version: http://blackice.iss.net/product_server_protection.php ~Rick For a firewall, would the regular version of Blackice work ok or is the Server version needed

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Marc Catuogno
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Kratka Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 03:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it? For a firewall, would the regular version of Blackice work ok or is the Server version needed. Jeff Kratka

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Markus Gufler
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Wolf Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 12:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it? I called the Black Ice tech support people today and discussed this issue. They told me

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Sanford Whiteman
He also had major concerns about backup mail spoolers. He said that you have to whitelist your backup spoolers and that will still allow the spammer to run their dictionary attacks. Only if the backups don't run BlackIce. :) But if _they're_ downselling it, that's interesting. --Sandy

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
like to look into.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it? I have no practical solution but you would need something

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-06 Thread Joe Wolf
:07 PM Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it? He also had major concerns about backup mail spoolers. He said that you have to whitelist your backup spoolers and that will still allow the spammer to run their dictionary attacks. Only if the backups don't run BlackIce

[Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-05 Thread Joe Wolf
Perhaps someone here might be able to shed some light on my problem. I've had two cases recently where I had hosting customers move their email services to my Imail/Declude box. Both moved from a national hosting company and had no spam protection of any kind on their services. Both complained

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
I've had two cases recently where I had hosting customers move their email services to my Imail/Declude box. Both moved from a national hosting company and had no spam protection of any kind on their services. Both complained within a week of the move that they're getting bombarded by spam.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-05 Thread Joe Wolf
to post a header. Gotta keep inside our Privacy Policy. Thanks for the quick reply! -Joe - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it? I've had two cases

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-05 Thread Todd Holt
, NV USA 702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Wolf Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it? Thanks for the reply. No dictionary attacks that I can see

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it?

2004-02-05 Thread Richard Farris
: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do they do it? I've had two cases recently where I had hosting customers move their email services to my Imail/Declude box. Both moved from a national hosting company and had no spam protection of any kind on their services