RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in their FROM email

2008-05-01 Thread David Barker
Although a range of IP's can be used in filters it is not so in this case as
we are looking for a string rather than an IP address as such. Another way
to achieve the same result would be to add a unique outbound header eg.

XOUTHEADER  X-AUTH: Yes

Then In the FILTER-BACKSCATTER

BODYEND CONTAINSX-AUTH: Yes

David Barker

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean
Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:46 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in
their FROM email

Dave,

Is there a way to specify a range of IPs in the backscatter filter? My
server has about 50 IPs and it would be nice not to have to enter all
of them. 8- )

Thanks,

Dean

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:06 PM, David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 FILTER-NOSENDER is used to see if it is an automated message/response from
a
 server. If the message triggers FILTER-NOSENDER we then go onto use
 FILTER-BACKSCATTER to score on phrases within the content. Also in the
 FILTER-BACKSCATTER there is a condition that if your server IP is found in
 the body of the bounced message we can assume the original message was
from
 your server and therefore the FILTER-BACKSCATTER should not be run this is
 to help reduce false positives.


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Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner
Internet Data Technology
888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381
http://www.idatatech.com/
Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in their FROM email

2008-04-30 Thread Dean Lawrence
Dave,

Is there a way to specify a range of IPs in the backscatter filter? My
server has about 50 IPs and it would be nice not to have to enter all
of them. 8- )

Thanks,

Dean

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:06 PM, David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 FILTER-NOSENDER is used to see if it is an automated message/response from a
 server. If the message triggers FILTER-NOSENDER we then go onto use
 FILTER-BACKSCATTER to score on phrases within the content. Also in the
 FILTER-BACKSCATTER there is a condition that if your server IP is found in
 the body of the bounced message we can assume the original message was from
 your server and therefore the FILTER-BACKSCATTER should not be run this is
 to help reduce false positives.


-- 
__
Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner
Internet Data Technology
888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381
http://www.idatatech.com/
Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in their FROM email

2008-04-22 Thread Ferrell Ard
Don't know if Declude (or anyone) can help, but we are seeing
a L O T  of bounce-backs that show that the SPAMMERS are
using valid  postmaster@domain  (that we host) as their FROM address
and send the SPAM out thru Post Offices other than ours.

When the SPAM goes to a non-existant address, it bounces back
to the valid postmaster@domain on my Server.
We are getting 5,000 - 10,000 of these bounces per day..

Any suggestions?

Thanks very much
Ferrell

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in their FROM email

2008-04-22 Thread David Barker
This is known as backscatter you can read about it here.

 

http://www.spamresource.com/2007/02/backscatter-what-is-it-how-do-i-stop-it.
html

 

If you go to the Declude My Account home page you will find a link to
download a zip file which contains 2 filters you can use against
backscatter. Download these and extract them to your \declude\filters folder
and then call the filters from your global.cfg to be aggressive score the
FILTER-NOSENDER with 10 or more points.


David

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ferrell
Ard
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:22 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in
their FROM email
Importance: High

 

Don't know if Declude (or anyone) can help, but we are seeing

a L O T  of bounce-backs that show that the SPAMMERS are

using valid  postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain  (that we
host) as their FROM address

and send the SPAM out thru Post Offices other than ours.

 

When the SPAM goes to a non-existant address, it bounces back

to the valid postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain on my
Server.

We are getting 5,000 - 10,000 of these bounces per day..

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks very much

Ferrell


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in their FROM email

2008-04-22 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Ferrell,

 

Its called backscatter.

I had to post some info about it on my site for my own clients. Feel free to
copy it.

 

http://www.123marbella.net/kb.html#6 


I am currently looking at alligate gateway in order to add some added
protection to my mail network.

However, declude does have a filter for this and i did install it and no one
has really complained since then so it may have worked.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ferrell
Ard
Sent: 22 April 2008 17:22
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in
their FROM email
Importance: High

 

Don't know if Declude (or anyone) can help, but we are seeing

a L O T  of bounce-backs that show that the SPAMMERS are

using valid  postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain  (that we
host) as their FROM address

and send the SPAM out thru Post Offices other than ours.

 

When the SPAM goes to a non-existant address, it bounces back

to the valid postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain on my
Server.

We are getting 5,000 - 10,000 of these bounces per day..

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks very much

Ferrell


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in their FROM email

2008-04-22 Thread Che Vilnonis
David, I have Junkmail Pro... can I use the NOSENDER filter? If so, where
can I find it? Thanks, E.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:32 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in
their FROM email



This is known as backscatter you can read about it here.

 

http://www.spamresource.com/2007/02/backscatter-what-is-it-how-do-i-stop-it.
html

 

If you go to the Declude My Account home page you will find a link to
download a zip file which contains 2 filters you can use against
backscatter. Download these and extract them to your \declude\filters folder
and then call the filters from your global.cfg to be aggressive score the
FILTER-NOSENDER with 10 or more points.


David

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ferrell
Ard
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:22 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in
their FROM email
Importance: High

 

Don't know if Declude (or anyone) can help, but we are seeing

a L O T  of bounce-backs that show that the SPAMMERS are

using valid  postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain  (that we
host) as their FROM address

and send the SPAM out thru Post Offices other than ours.

 

When the SPAM goes to a non-existant address, it bounces back

to the valid postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain on my
Server.

We are getting 5,000 - 10,000 of these bounces per day..

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks very much

Ferrell


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in their FROM email

2008-04-22 Thread Stephan Chayer
David,
 
I never added your backscatter, should I do it.
 
What does it do exactly.
 
Stephan

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FROM email



This is known as backscatter you can read about it here.

 

http://www.spamresource.com/2007/02/backscatter-what-is-it-how-do-i-stop-it.
html

 

If you go to the Declude My Account home page you will find a link to
download a zip file which contains 2 filters you can use against
backscatter. Download these and extract them to your \declude\filters folder
and then call the filters from your global.cfg to be aggressive score the
FILTER-NOSENDER with 10 or more points.


David

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ferrell
Ard
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:22 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in
their FROM email
Importance: High

 

Don't know if Declude (or anyone) can help, but we are seeing

a L O T  of bounce-backs that show that the SPAMMERS are

using valid  postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain  (that we
host) as their FROM address

and send the SPAM out thru Post Offices other than ours.

 

When the SPAM goes to a non-existant address, it bounces back

to the valid postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain on my
Server.

We are getting 5,000 - 10,000 of these bounces per day..

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks very much

Ferrell


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in their FROM email

2008-04-22 Thread David Barker
FILTER-NOSENDER is used to see if it is an automated message/response from a
server. If the message triggers FILTER-NOSENDER we then go onto use
FILTER-BACKSCATTER to score on phrases within the content. Also in the
FILTER-BACKSCATTER there is a condition that if your server IP is found in
the body of the bounced message we can assume the original message was from
your server and therefore the FILTER-BACKSCATTER should not be run this is
to help reduce false positives.

 

David B

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan
Chayer
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:52 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in
their FROM email

 

David,

 

I never added your backscatter, should I do it.

 

What does it do exactly.

 

Stephan

 

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Barker
Envoyé : 22 avril, 2008 11:32
À : declude.junkmail@declude.com
Objet : RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in their
FROM email

This is known as backscatter you can read about it here.

 

http://www.spamresource.com/2007/02/backscatter-what-is-it-how-do-i-stop-it.
html

 

If you go to the Declude My Account home page you will find a link to
download a zip file which contains 2 filters you can use against
backscatter. Download these and extract them to your \declude\filters folder
and then call the filters from your global.cfg to be aggressive score the
FILTER-NOSENDER with 10 or more points.


David

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ferrell
Ard
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:22 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using postmaster@domain in
their FROM email
Importance: High

 

Don't know if Declude (or anyone) can help, but we are seeing

a L O T  of bounce-backs that show that the SPAMMERS are

using valid  postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain  (that we
host) as their FROM address

and send the SPAM out thru Post Offices other than ours.

 

When the SPAM goes to a non-existant address, it bounces back

to the valid postmaster@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain on my
Server.

We are getting 5,000 - 10,000 of these bounces per day..

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks very much

Ferrell


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