RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

2008-01-05 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Wow, I posted those instructions a long time ago.  I didn't know so many
people ended up running blackice!   

I have no plans to replace blackice until a server upgrade means it won't
run any more.  Hopefully that won't be for several years.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard
 Smith (N.O.R.A.D.)
 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:59 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings
 
 ISS  no longer supports blackice  and it is no longer in production , what
 are users  replacing it with ?
 
 
 Howard Smith
 .
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:58 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings
 
 I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to use Blackice
 Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!
 
 
 Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data Execution Prevention
 OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On your server
 right click on MY COMPUTER then go to properties and then go to
advanced.
 Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then click on the Data
 Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything,
remove
 it for the listed services.
 
 Next, you can install Blackice.
 
 When you install Blackice server you should install it with the trusting
 mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it asks you what you
 want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if it does or not
 because it has been several years since I installed it.   If it doesn't
ask
 you the protection level that you want, after you install blackice you can
 go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under protection level you
 can select trusting: allow all inbound traffic
 
 Blackice should run without causing you any trouble so you should have
time
 to complete the other configuration items.  The whole install and
 configuration only took me about 15 minutes.  I installed it on a
dedicated
 email server.  I don't have any experience with Blackice on a server
running
 other stuff besides email and webmail.
 
 Also, you can always stop the Blackice service if you hit a problem.
 Blackice does its thing by watching traffic across the network card.  If
you
 stop Blackice then its effectively as if Blackice isn't installed on the
 server.  When the service is stopped Blackice is gone and all is back as
it
 was before.
 
 Attached is the issuelist.csv file which comes with Blackice server.
 Blackice uses this file as a database of different types of attacks.  Line
 227 had to be modified to indicate an action of IP|RST.  The IP|RST tells
 Blackice to block the IP of the attacker as the action to take.  Ignore
the
 comments to the far right of line 227.  The comments say to block the
 attacker if they attempt to send email to 10 non-existent email addresses
 within 120 seconds.  The QTY/Timeframe is actually specified elsewhere.
All
 you need to change in this file is to add IP|RST to line 227.  The
attached
 file already has the change.  It is from the most current version if
 Blackice so if you just bought Blackice you can move the attached file
into
 the Blackice directory and you're good to go.
 
 Next, in the Blackice GUI you'll want to go to the firewall tab and put a
 checkmark in front of Enable Auto BlockingThe GUI updates the
 firewall.ini file to tell Blackice that auto-blocking is enabled.  The
line
 in my firewall.ini is the following:
 
 auto-blocking = enabled, 2000, BIgui
 
 Next, go to the blackice.ini file and manually edit it to add the
following
 4 lines:
 
 
 smtp.error.count=6
 smtp.error.interval=30
 pam.smtp.error.count=6
 pam.error.interval=30
 
 
 The above settings in blackice.ini tells Blackice that if it detects an
 attempt to send to 6 non-existent email addresses within 30 seconds then
it
 should activate the Email_Error action in line 227 of issuelist.csv.  We
set
 the action to be IP|RST (in issuelist.csv) which specifies that the IP
 should be blocked.  So if the QTY/Timeframe is met, the IP is blocked.
The
 block of the IP will automatically go away after a specified time.  This
is
 good because an IP is never permanently blocked forever.
 
 I believe the IP is removed from the blocklist after 24 hours.  I have to
 find where you specify the length of time that the IP should remain
blocked.
 I'll post that when I find it.
 
 Also, on those 4 config lines above you can obviously choose how
aggressive
 you want to be at blocking email harvesting by setting a different
 error.count and error.interval.  I figured 6 attempts at bad addresses in
30
 seconds was most certainly someone trying to guess email addresses on our
 servers.
 
 
 Another thing that you will want to do is go

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

2008-01-04 Thread Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.)
ISS  no longer supports blackice  and it is no longer in production , what
are users  replacing it with ?

 
Howard Smith
. 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to use Blackice
Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!


Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data Execution Prevention
OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On your server
right click on MY COMPUTER then go to properties and then go to advanced.
Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then click on the Data
Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything, remove
it for the listed services.

Next, you can install Blackice.

When you install Blackice server you should install it with the trusting
mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it asks you what you
want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if it does or not
because it has been several years since I installed it.   If it doesn't ask
you the protection level that you want, after you install blackice you can
go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under protection level you
can select trusting: allow all inbound traffic

Blackice should run without causing you any trouble so you should have time
to complete the other configuration items.  The whole install and
configuration only took me about 15 minutes.  I installed it on a dedicated
email server.  I don't have any experience with Blackice on a server running
other stuff besides email and webmail.

Also, you can always stop the Blackice service if you hit a problem.
Blackice does its thing by watching traffic across the network card.  If you
stop Blackice then its effectively as if Blackice isn't installed on the
server.  When the service is stopped Blackice is gone and all is back as it
was before. 

Attached is the issuelist.csv file which comes with Blackice server.
Blackice uses this file as a database of different types of attacks.  Line
227 had to be modified to indicate an action of IP|RST.  The IP|RST tells
Blackice to block the IP of the attacker as the action to take.  Ignore the
comments to the far right of line 227.  The comments say to block the
attacker if they attempt to send email to 10 non-existent email addresses
within 120 seconds.  The QTY/Timeframe is actually specified elsewhere.  All
you need to change in this file is to add IP|RST to line 227.  The attached
file already has the change.  It is from the most current version if
Blackice so if you just bought Blackice you can move the attached file into
the Blackice directory and you're good to go.

Next, in the Blackice GUI you'll want to go to the firewall tab and put a
checkmark in front of Enable Auto BlockingThe GUI updates the
firewall.ini file to tell Blackice that auto-blocking is enabled.  The line
in my firewall.ini is the following:

auto-blocking = enabled, 2000, BIgui

Next, go to the blackice.ini file and manually edit it to add the following
4 lines:


smtp.error.count=6   
smtp.error.interval=30
pam.smtp.error.count=6 
pam.error.interval=30


The above settings in blackice.ini tells Blackice that if it detects an
attempt to send to 6 non-existent email addresses within 30 seconds then it
should activate the Email_Error action in line 227 of issuelist.csv.  We set
the action to be IP|RST (in issuelist.csv) which specifies that the IP
should be blocked.  So if the QTY/Timeframe is met, the IP is blocked.  The
block of the IP will automatically go away after a specified time.  This is
good because an IP is never permanently blocked forever.  

I believe the IP is removed from the blocklist after 24 hours.  I have to
find where you specify the length of time that the IP should remain blocked.
I'll post that when I find it.  

Also, on those 4 config lines above you can obviously choose how aggressive
you want to be at blocking email harvesting by setting a different
error.count and error.interval.  I figured 6 attempts at bad addresses in 30
seconds was most certainly someone trying to guess email addresses on our
servers.


Another thing that you will want to do is go into the Blackice GUI and go to
the intrusion detection tab.  Here you will want to add your internal and
external IP addresses as ranges of IP addresses that you want to trust.  

If Blackice ever blocks an IP that shouldn't be blocked (say some customer
who isn't well-behaved but who is still a customer), through the GUI you can
right click on your customer's  info in the EVENTS tab and then select the
option to trust and accept them.  This will prevent them from ever being
automatically blocked by Blackice.

I know the above is a bit to digest  but don't let it scare you.  Blackice
is a 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

2008-01-04 Thread Matt

In relation to spam or in relation to security?

My answers would be Alligate (on a separate server) and a firewall, 
respectively.


Matt



Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:

ISS  no longer supports blackice  and it is no longer in production , what
are users  replacing it with ?

 
Howard Smith
. 
 
 
-Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to use Blackice
Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!


Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data Execution Prevention
OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On your server
right click on MY COMPUTER then go to properties and then go to advanced.
Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then click on the Data
Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything, remove
it for the listed services.

Next, you can install Blackice.

When you install Blackice server you should install it with the trusting
mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it asks you what you
want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if it does or not
because it has been several years since I installed it.   If it doesn't ask
you the protection level that you want, after you install blackice you can
go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under protection level you
can select trusting: allow all inbound traffic

Blackice should run without causing you any trouble so you should have time
to complete the other configuration items.  The whole install and
configuration only took me about 15 minutes.  I installed it on a dedicated
email server.  I don't have any experience with Blackice on a server running
other stuff besides email and webmail.

Also, you can always stop the Blackice service if you hit a problem.
Blackice does its thing by watching traffic across the network card.  If you
stop Blackice then its effectively as if Blackice isn't installed on the
server.  When the service is stopped Blackice is gone and all is back as it
was before. 


Attached is the issuelist.csv file which comes with Blackice server.
Blackice uses this file as a database of different types of attacks.  Line
227 had to be modified to indicate an action of IP|RST.  The IP|RST tells
Blackice to block the IP of the attacker as the action to take.  Ignore the
comments to the far right of line 227.  The comments say to block the
attacker if they attempt to send email to 10 non-existent email addresses
within 120 seconds.  The QTY/Timeframe is actually specified elsewhere.  All
you need to change in this file is to add IP|RST to line 227.  The attached
file already has the change.  It is from the most current version if
Blackice so if you just bought Blackice you can move the attached file into
the Blackice directory and you're good to go.

Next, in the Blackice GUI you'll want to go to the firewall tab and put a
checkmark in front of Enable Auto BlockingThe GUI updates the
firewall.ini file to tell Blackice that auto-blocking is enabled.  The line
in my firewall.ini is the following:

auto-blocking = enabled, 2000, BIgui

Next, go to the blackice.ini file and manually edit it to add the following
4 lines:


smtp.error.count=6   
smtp.error.interval=30
pam.smtp.error.count=6 
pam.error.interval=30



The above settings in blackice.ini tells Blackice that if it detects an
attempt to send to 6 non-existent email addresses within 30 seconds then it
should activate the Email_Error action in line 227 of issuelist.csv.  We set
the action to be IP|RST (in issuelist.csv) which specifies that the IP
should be blocked.  So if the QTY/Timeframe is met, the IP is blocked.  The
block of the IP will automatically go away after a specified time.  This is
good because an IP is never permanently blocked forever.  


I believe the IP is removed from the blocklist after 24 hours.  I have to
find where you specify the length of time that the IP should remain blocked.
I'll post that when I find it.  


Also, on those 4 config lines above you can obviously choose how aggressive
you want to be at blocking email harvesting by setting a different
error.count and error.interval.  I figured 6 attempts at bad addresses in 30
seconds was most certainly someone trying to guess email addresses on our
servers.


Another thing that you will want to do is go into the Blackice GUI and go to
the intrusion detection tab.  Here you will want to add your internal and
external IP addresses as ranges of IP addresses that you want to trust.  


If Blackice ever blocks an IP that shouldn't be blocked (say some customer
who isn't well-behaved but who is still a customer), through the GUI you can
right click on your customer's  info in the EVENTS tab and then select the
option to 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need replacement

2008-01-04 Thread Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.)
To replace blackice functions as to load on a server  and monitor and block
what applications sends out on individual ports . I have an offending app or
task that trying to send out on random ports , I am trying to find it and
block it 

 
Howard Smith
N.O.R.A.D. Inc.
P.O. Box 680116
Miami, Florida 33168  
www.norad.com 
www.securetrek.com
www.siteshuttle.com
www.audiovideotrek.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office - (305) NETWORK (638-9675)
Sales - (786) 206-0045
Fax 1 - (305) 359-5144
 

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:25 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

In relation to spam or in relation to security?

My answers would be Alligate (on a separate server) and a firewall, 
respectively.

Matt



Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:
 ISS  no longer supports blackice  and it is no longer in production , what
 are users  replacing it with ?

  
 Howard Smith
 . 
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:58 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

 I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to use Blackice
 Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!


 Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data Execution Prevention
 OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On your server
 right click on MY COMPUTER then go to properties and then go to
advanced.
 Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then click on the Data
 Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything,
remove
 it for the listed services.

 Next, you can install Blackice.

 When you install Blackice server you should install it with the trusting
 mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it asks you what you
 want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if it does or not
 because it has been several years since I installed it.   If it doesn't
ask
 you the protection level that you want, after you install blackice you can
 go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under protection level you
 can select trusting: allow all inbound traffic

 Blackice should run without causing you any trouble so you should have
time
 to complete the other configuration items.  The whole install and
 configuration only took me about 15 minutes.  I installed it on a
dedicated
 email server.  I don't have any experience with Blackice on a server
running
 other stuff besides email and webmail.

 Also, you can always stop the Blackice service if you hit a problem.
 Blackice does its thing by watching traffic across the network card.  If
you
 stop Blackice then its effectively as if Blackice isn't installed on the
 server.  When the service is stopped Blackice is gone and all is back as
it
 was before. 

 Attached is the issuelist.csv file which comes with Blackice server.
 Blackice uses this file as a database of different types of attacks.  Line
 227 had to be modified to indicate an action of IP|RST.  The IP|RST tells
 Blackice to block the IP of the attacker as the action to take.  Ignore
the
 comments to the far right of line 227.  The comments say to block the
 attacker if they attempt to send email to 10 non-existent email addresses
 within 120 seconds.  The QTY/Timeframe is actually specified elsewhere.
All
 you need to change in this file is to add IP|RST to line 227.  The
attached
 file already has the change.  It is from the most current version if
 Blackice so if you just bought Blackice you can move the attached file
into
 the Blackice directory and you're good to go.

 Next, in the Blackice GUI you'll want to go to the firewall tab and put a
 checkmark in front of Enable Auto BlockingThe GUI updates the
 firewall.ini file to tell Blackice that auto-blocking is enabled.  The
line
 in my firewall.ini is the following:

 auto-blocking = enabled, 2000, BIgui

 Next, go to the blackice.ini file and manually edit it to add the
following
 4 lines:


 smtp.error.count=6   
 smtp.error.interval=30
 pam.smtp.error.count=6 
 pam.error.interval=30


 The above settings in blackice.ini tells Blackice that if it detects an
 attempt to send to 6 non-existent email addresses within 30 seconds then
it
 should activate the Email_Error action in line 227 of issuelist.csv.  We
set
 the action to be IP|RST (in issuelist.csv) which specifies

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need replacement

2008-01-04 Thread Matt
I'm sure that there are many opinions around here, but I don't think 
that servers should be the place where you enforce security with a 
software firewall.  Although you might like some of what it tells you, I 
would think that a firewall and AV software would do the trick perfectly 
fine.  Of course you can tune your firewall to your heart's content, and 
do things like limit outgoing ports, run IDS, etc.  If you have enough 
servers, you might also want to set up off-site vulnerability scanning 
on a scheduled basis.  If you are worried about inside your network you 
should set up VLANs.


As we saw a couple of years ago with Blackice, and then again last year 
with Symantec Corporate, software that intercepts packets from the 
network are themselves vulnerable to exploitation, and this is a good 
reason to use a hardware firewall as at least a first level of defense, 
and only allow in what is necessary.


Matt



Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:

To replace blackice functions as to load on a server  and monitor and block
what applications sends out on individual ports . I have an offending app or
task that trying to send out on random ports , I am trying to find it and
block it 

 
Howard Smith

N.O.R.A.D. Inc.
P.O. Box 680116
Miami, Florida 33168  
www.norad.com 
www.securetrek.com

www.siteshuttle.com
www.audiovideotrek.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office - (305) NETWORK (638-9675)
Sales - (786) 206-0045
Fax 1 - (305) 359-5144
 


Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any Attachments, is
for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential
and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please
contact  [EMAIL PROTECTED] by email and destroy all copies of the original
message. 
 
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:25 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

In relation to spam or in relation to security?

My answers would be Alligate (on a separate server) and a firewall, 
respectively.


Matt



Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:
  

ISS  no longer supports blackice  and it is no longer in production , what
are users  replacing it with ?

 
Howard Smith
. 
 
 
-Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to use Blackice
Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!


Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data Execution Prevention
OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On your server
right click on MY COMPUTER then go to properties and then go to


advanced.
  

Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then click on the Data
Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything,


remove
  

it for the listed services.

Next, you can install Blackice.

When you install Blackice server you should install it with the trusting
mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it asks you what you
want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if it does or not
because it has been several years since I installed it.   If it doesn't


ask
  

you the protection level that you want, after you install blackice you can
go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under protection level you
can select trusting: allow all inbound traffic

Blackice should run without causing you any trouble so you should have


time
  

to complete the other configuration items.  The whole install and
configuration only took me about 15 minutes.  I installed it on a


dedicated
  

email server.  I don't have any experience with Blackice on a server


running
  

other stuff besides email and webmail.

Also, you can always stop the Blackice service if you hit a problem.
Blackice does its thing by watching traffic across the network card.  If


you
  

stop Blackice then its effectively as if Blackice isn't installed on the
server.  When the service is stopped Blackice is gone and all is back as


it
  
was before. 


Attached is the issuelist.csv file which comes with Blackice server.
Blackice uses this file as a database of different types of attacks.  Line
227 had to be modified to indicate an action of IP|RST.  The IP|RST tells
Blackice to block the IP of the attacker as the action to take.  Ignore


the
  

comments to the far right of line 227.  The comments say to block the
attacker if they attempt to send email to 10 non-existent email addresses
within 120 seconds.  The QTY/Timeframe is actually specified elsewhere.


All
  

you need to change

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need replacement

2008-01-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
If it is going on all the time, use the command line and issue:

netstat -b

which will show you the executable name and the connection.

If you need to narrow down the TCP connection over a longer period of
time, use the free TCPView from  Sysinternals dot com (now a Microsoft
Technet site).

Perhaps someone else will have an opinion on a good host based firewall
for an email server.


Andrew.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.)
 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:55 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - 
 need replacement
 
 To replace blackice functions as to load on a server  and 
 monitor and block
 what applications sends out on individual ports . I have an 
 offending app or
 task that trying to send out on random ports , I am trying to 
 find it and
 block it 
 
  
 Howard Smith
 N.O.R.A.D. Inc.
 P.O. Box 680116
 Miami, Florida 33168  
 www.norad.com 
 www.securetrek.com
 www.siteshuttle.com
 www.audiovideotrek.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Office - (305) NETWORK (638-9675)
 Sales - (786) 206-0045
 Fax 1 - (305) 359-5144
  
 
 Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any 
 Attachments, is
 for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain 
 confidential
 and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, 
 disclosure or
 distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended 
 recipient, please
 contact  [EMAIL PROTECTED] by email and destroy all copies of 
 the original
 message. 
  
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:25 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings
 
 In relation to spam or in relation to security?
 
 My answers would be Alligate (on a separate server) and a firewall, 
 respectively.
 
 Matt
 
 
 
 Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:
  ISS  no longer supports blackice  and it is no longer in 
 production , what
  are users  replacing it with ?
 
   
  Howard Smith
  . 
   
   
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Dave
  Beckstrom
  Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:58 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings
 
  I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to 
 use Blackice
  Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!
 
 
  Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data 
 Execution Prevention
  OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On 
 your server
  right click on MY COMPUTER then go to properties and then go to
 advanced.
  Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then 
 click on the Data
  Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything,
 remove
  it for the listed services.
 
  Next, you can install Blackice.
 
  When you install Blackice server you should install it with 
 the trusting
  mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it 
 asks you what you
  want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if 
 it does or not
  because it has been several years since I installed it.   
 If it doesn't
 ask
  you the protection level that you want, after you install 
 blackice you can
  go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under 
 protection level you
  can select trusting: allow all inbound traffic
 
  Blackice should run without causing you any trouble so you 
 should have
 time
  to complete the other configuration items.  The whole install and
  configuration only took me about 15 minutes.  I installed it on a
 dedicated
  email server.  I don't have any experience with Blackice on a server
 running
  other stuff besides email and webmail.
 
  Also, you can always stop the Blackice service if you hit a problem.
  Blackice does its thing by watching traffic across the 
 network card.  If
 you
  stop Blackice then its effectively as if Blackice isn't 
 installed on the
  server.  When the service is stopped Blackice is gone and 
 all is back as
 it
  was before. 
 
  Attached is the issuelist.csv file which comes with Blackice server.
  Blackice uses this file as a database of different types of 
 attacks.  Line
  227 had to be modified to indicate an action of IP|RST.  
 The IP|RST tells
  Blackice to block the IP of the attacker as the action to 
 take.  Ignore
 the
  comments to the far right of line 227.  The comments say to 
 block the
  attacker if they attempt to send email to 10 non-existent 
 email addresses
  within 120 seconds.  The QTY/Timeframe is actually 
 specified elsewhere.
 All
  you need to change in this file is to add IP|RST to line 227.  The
 attached
  file already has the change.  It is from the most current version if
  Blackice so if you just bought Blackice you can move

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need replacement

2008-01-04 Thread Jon
The best part of Black Ice is it's easy to read interface to see what
hitting the server.  I will continue to use it just for that purpose,
with an ACL in the router ahead of the server to do the heavy lifting of
access control.  It is an effective blocker for UDP port probes, when
used in conjunction with an ACL which blocks the TCP and IP port probes,
so an outsider cannot execute anything.  On the other side, I would
never use a software application on the server as the primary
defense...been there, done that years ago when the Witty.A virus struck.
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:21 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need
replacement


I'm sure that there are many opinions around here, but I don't think
that servers should be the place where you enforce security with a
software firewall.  Although you might like some of what it tells you, I
would think that a firewall and AV software would do the trick perfectly
fine.  Of course you can tune your firewall to your heart's content, and
do things like limit outgoing ports, run IDS, etc.  If you have enough
servers, you might also want to set up off-site vulnerability scanning
on a scheduled basis.  If you are worried about inside your network you
should set up VLANs.

As we saw a couple of years ago with Blackice, and then again last year
with Symantec Corporate, software that intercepts packets from the
network are themselves vulnerable to exploitation, and this is a good
reason to use a hardware firewall as at least a first level of defense,
and only allow in what is necessary.

Matt



Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote: 

To replace blackice functions as to load on a server  and monitor and
block

what applications sends out on individual ports . I have an offending
app or

task that trying to send out on random ports , I am trying to find it
and

block it 



 

Howard Smith

N.O.R.A.D. Inc.

P.O. Box 680116

Miami, Florida 33168  

www.norad.com 

www.securetrek.com

www.siteshuttle.com

www.audiovideotrek.com

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Sales - (786) 206-0045

Fax 1 - (305) 359-5144

 



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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:25 PM

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com

Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings



In relation to spam or in relation to security?



My answers would be Alligate (on a separate server) and a firewall, 

respectively.



Matt







Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:

  

ISS  no longer supports blackice  and it is no longer in production ,
what

are users  replacing it with ?



 

Howard Smith

. 

 

 

-Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave

Beckstrom

Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:58 PM

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com

Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings



I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to use Blackice

Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!





Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data Execution
Prevention

OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On your server

right click on MY COMPUTER then go to properties and then go to



advanced.

  

Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then click on the Data

Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything,



remove

  

it for the listed services.



Next, you can install Blackice.



When you install Blackice server you should install it with the trusting

mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it asks you what
you

want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if it does or
not

because it has been several years since I installed it.   If it doesn't



ask

  

you the protection level that you want, after you install blackice you
can

go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under protection level
you

can select trusting: allow all inbound traffic



Blackice should run without causing you any trouble so you should have



time

  

to complete the other configuration items.  The whole install and

configuration only took me about 15 minutes.  I installed it on a



dedicated

  

email server.  I don't have any experience with Blackice on a server



running

  

other stuff besides email and webmail.



Also, you

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need replacement

2008-01-04 Thread Don Schreiner
We too use Black Ice with great success (except Windows 2003R2 will not
install and run).  The replacement is IMP Proventia and very expensive at
about $700 per server.  We are also looking for a more cost-effective
replacement.

 

-Don

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:47 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need replacement

 

The best part of Black Ice is it's easy to read interface to see what
hitting the server.  I will continue to use it just for that purpose, with
an ACL in the router ahead of the server to do the heavy lifting of access
control.  It is an effective blocker for UDP port probes, when used in
conjunction with an ACL which blocks the TCP and IP port probes, so an
outsider cannot execute anything.  On the other side, I would never use a
software application on the server as the primary defense...been there, done
that years ago when the Witty.A virus struck.

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:21 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need replacement

I'm sure that there are many opinions around here, but I don't think that
servers should be the place where you enforce security with a software
firewall.  Although you might like some of what it tells you, I would think
that a firewall and AV software would do the trick perfectly fine.  Of
course you can tune your firewall to your heart's content, and do things
like limit outgoing ports, run IDS, etc.  If you have enough servers, you
might also want to set up off-site vulnerability scanning on a scheduled
basis.  If you are worried about inside your network you should set up
VLANs.

As we saw a couple of years ago with Blackice, and then again last year with
Symantec Corporate, software that intercepts packets from the network are
themselves vulnerable to exploitation, and this is a good reason to use a
hardware firewall as at least a first level of defense, and only allow in
what is necessary.

Matt



Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote: 

To replace blackice functions as to load on a server  and monitor and block
what applications sends out on individual ports . I have an offending app or
task that trying to send out on random ports , I am trying to find it and
block it 
 
 
Howard Smith
N.O.R.A.D. Inc.
P.O. Box 680116
Miami, Florida 33168  
www.norad.com 
www.securetrek.com
www.siteshuttle.com
www.audiovideotrek.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office - (305) NETWORK (638-9675)
Sales - (786) 206-0045
Fax 1 - (305) 359-5144
 
 
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and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:25 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings
 
In relation to spam or in relation to security?
 
My answers would be Alligate (on a separate server) and a firewall, 
respectively.
 
Matt
 
 
 
Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:
  

ISS  no longer supports blackice  and it is no longer in production , what
are users  replacing it with ?
 
 
Howard Smith
. 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings
 
I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to use Blackice
Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!
 
 
Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data Execution Prevention
OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On your server
right click on MY COMPUTER then go to properties and then go to


advanced.
  

Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then click on the Data
Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything,


remove
  

it for the listed services.
 
Next, you can install Blackice.
 
When you install Blackice server you should install it with the trusting
mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it asks you what you
want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if it does or not
because it has been several years since I installed it.   If it doesn't


ask
  

you the protection level that you want, after you install blackice you can
go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under protection level you
can select trusting: allow all inbound

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

2006-09-27 Thread Mike Wiegers








Dave,



Could you post the settings for
Blackice? It looks like the list does accept attachments.



Thanks,







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:00 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings







Im leaving town in a little bit and I wont be back
until Sunday. If someone reminds me on Sunday or Monday Id be
happy to post the settings.



Are we able to post attachments to this list?













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wiegers
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings





Wanted to start a new thread on this.



Dave,



Could you post the ini settings for BlackIce that can help
with mail servers?



Thanks






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

2006-09-27 Thread Craig Edmonds

Nice!

Thanks Dave.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to use Blackice
Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!


Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data Execution Prevention
OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On your server
right click on MY COMPUTER then go to properties and then go to advanced.
Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then click on the Data
Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything, remove
it for the listed services.

Next, you can install Blackice.

When you install Blackice server you should install it with the trusting
mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it asks you what you
want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if it does or not
because it has been several years since I installed it.   If it doesn't ask
you the protection level that you want, after you install blackice you can
go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under protection level you
can select trusting: allow all inbound traffic

Blackice should run without causing you any trouble so you should have time
to complete the other configuration items.  The whole install and
configuration only took me about 15 minutes.  I installed it on a dedicated
email server.  I don't have any experience with Blackice on a server running
other stuff besides email and webmail.

Also, you can always stop the Blackice service if you hit a problem.
Blackice does its thing by watching traffic across the network card.  If you
stop Blackice then its effectively as if Blackice isn't installed on the
server.  When the service is stopped Blackice is gone and all is back as it
was before. 

Attached is the issuelist.csv file which comes with Blackice server.
Blackice uses this file as a database of different types of attacks.  Line
227 had to be modified to indicate an action of IP|RST.  The IP|RST tells
Blackice to block the IP of the attacker as the action to take.  Ignore the
comments to the far right of line 227.  The comments say to block the
attacker if they attempt to send email to 10 non-existent email addresses
within 120 seconds.  The QTY/Timeframe is actually specified elsewhere.  All
you need to change in this file is to add IP|RST to line 227.  The attached
file already has the change.  It is from the most current version if
Blackice so if you just bought Blackice you can move the attached file into
the Blackice directory and you're good to go.

Next, in the Blackice GUI you'll want to go to the firewall tab and put a
checkmark in front of Enable Auto BlockingThe GUI updates the
firewall.ini file to tell Blackice that auto-blocking is enabled.  The line
in my firewall.ini is the following:

auto-blocking = enabled, 2000, BIgui

Next, go to the blackice.ini file and manually edit it to add the following
4 lines:


smtp.error.count=6   
smtp.error.interval=30
pam.smtp.error.count=6
pam.error.interval=30


The above settings in blackice.ini tells Blackice that if it detects an
attempt to send to 6 non-existent email addresses within 30 seconds then it
should activate the Email_Error action in line 227 of issuelist.csv.  We set
the action to be IP|RST (in issuelist.csv) which specifies that the IP
should be blocked.  So if the QTY/Timeframe is met, the IP is blocked.  The
block of the IP will automatically go away after a specified time.  This is
good because an IP is never permanently blocked forever.  

I believe the IP is removed from the blocklist after 24 hours.  I have to
find where you specify the length of time that the IP should remain blocked.
I'll post that when I find it.  

Also, on those 4 config lines above you can obviously choose how aggressive
you want to be at blocking email harvesting by setting a different
error.count and error.interval.  I figured 6 attempts at bad addresses in 30
seconds was most certainly someone trying to guess email addresses on our
servers.


Another thing that you will want to do is go into the Blackice GUI and go to
the intrusion detection tab.  Here you will want to add your internal and
external IP addresses as ranges of IP addresses that you want to trust.  

If Blackice ever blocks an IP that shouldn't be blocked (say some customer
who isn't well-behaved but who is still a customer), through the GUI you can
right click on your customer's  info in the EVENTS tab and then select the
option to trust and accept them.  This will prevent them from ever being
automatically blocked by Blackice.

I know the above is a bit to digest  but don't let it scare you.  Blackice
is a simple 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

2006-09-25 Thread Mike Wiegers








In the past this list would accept
attachments. I havent seen any lately though.







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:00 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings







Im leaving town in a little bit and I wont be back
until Sunday. If someone reminds me on Sunday or Monday Id be
happy to post the settings.



Are we able to post attachments to this list?













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wiegers
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings





Wanted to start a new thread on this.



Dave,



Could you post the ini settings for BlackIce that can help
with mail servers?



Thanks






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

2006-09-25 Thread chris
















Chris Asaro

Technical Support Engineer

Declude

Your Email security is our business

866.332.5833toll free
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006
10:53 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Blackice Server Settings





In the past this list would accept
attachments. I havent seen any lately though.







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006
2:00 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Blackice Server Settings







Im leaving town
in a little bit and I wont be back until Sunday. If someone
reminds me on Sunday or Monday Id be happy to post the settings.



Are we able to post
attachments to this list?













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wiegers
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006
12:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
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Blackice Server Settings





Wanted
to start a new thread on this.



Dave,



Could
you post the ini settings for BlackIce that can help with mail servers?



Thanks






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

2006-09-21 Thread Dave Beckstrom








Im leaving town
in a little bit and I wont be back until Sunday. If someone
reminds me on Sunday or Monday Id be happy to post the settings.



Are we able to post
attachments to this list?













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On Behalf Of Mike Wiegers
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Blackice Server Settings





Wanted
to start a new thread on this.



Dave,



Could
you post the ini settings for BlackIce that can help with mail servers?



Thanks










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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice

2004-11-21 Thread Dan Horne
Well, an uninstall and re-install of BlackICE seems to have fixed my issue.
I had already taken it off of the server by the time I got the last DNS
suggestion, so I re-installed it to test it.  I haven't seen any processes
backing up since.  And, by the way, it is working excellently at
autoblocking dictionary attacks.  I recommend it to any Declude user who
wants a way of blocking Dictionary attacks for a relatively low cost.  At
least those who don't have the time (or the bosses' permission in my case,
he is blindly anti-Linux) to set up an IMGate box.

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice

Thanks for the tip, but I never took it off of Trusted.  Still, I will test
that and see.

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Could be a DNS issue.  Make sure that you can perform DNS lookups from that
box since you've set your settings to paranoid in BI.

Jason

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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:36 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice


 Is anyone here running both Blackice and Declude?  After running both 
 for about 20 minutes, all 4 processors on my server were pegged at 
 100%.  Task manager was filled with about 20-30 Declude.exe's, many 
 instances of Sniffer, many instances of SPAMCHK.exe, etc.  A reboot of 
 the server and
the
 same behavior (this time it didn't take 20 minutes, either, it was 
 almost instantaneous on boot).

 Dan Horne
 Web Services Administrator
 TAIS Web
 Wilcox World Travel  Tours
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice

2004-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is anyone here running both Blackice and Declude?  After running both for
about 20 minutes, all 4 processors on my server were pegged at 100%.
Which process(es) were using up the 100% CPU?
Specifically, if you click on the Processes tab in Task Manager, then click 
on the CPU button, which process(es) are at the top?

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice

2004-11-19 Thread Dan Horne
Declude.exe.  4 instances said 25% each, and the rest of the many Declude
processes were at 0. 

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Is anyone here running both Blackice and Declude?  After running both 
for about 20 minutes, all 4 processors on my server were pegged at 100%.

Which process(es) were using up the 100% CPU?

Specifically, if you click on the Processes tab in Task Manager, then click
on the CPU button, which process(es) are at the top?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice

2004-11-19 Thread Dan Horne
Oh, yeah, and blackice was way down the list showing 0%.

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Specifically, if you click on the Processes tab in Task Manager, then click
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice

2004-11-19 Thread Dan Horne
Thanks for the tip, but I never took it off of Trusted.  Still, I will test
that and see.

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Could be a DNS issue.  Make sure that you can perform DNS lookups from that
box since you've set your settings to paranoid in BI.

Jason

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice


 Is anyone here running both Blackice and Declude?  After running both for
 about 20 minutes, all 4 processors on my server were pegged at 100%.  Task
 manager was filled with about 20-30 Declude.exe's, many instances of
 Sniffer, many instances of SPAMCHK.exe, etc.  A reboot of the server and
the
 same behavior (this time it didn't take 20 minutes, either, it was almost
 instantaneous on boot).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce

2004-03-22 Thread Frederick Samarelli
We lost 16 Servers.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce


We had a single Colo'd server fall ill to this vulnerability on Friday
night.  It wasn't a pretty sight to say the least.

Jason


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Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:51 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce


Thanks for the heads up on this. Unless you have updated your BlackICE
in the last week you are at risk.

http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/166

http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20040318.html


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick
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Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 5:17 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce

Warning for anyone using BlackIce.

We were hit by a destructive worm.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11310-2004Mar20.html

Destroyed most of our servers.

We are in the process of recovering from backups.

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OT: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce

2004-03-22 Thread Todd Hunter
If you have 16 servers then you need to invest in a real firewall.  You can 
get a good hardware firewall for $900 - $3000.

Look at:

www.sonicwall.com
www.servgate.com
The ServGate Edgeforce is a nice unit and can be upgraded to do virus 
scanning.   The also won PC Mag Editors choice award this month.

Good luck.

Todd

At 10:43 AM 3/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
We lost 16 Servers.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
We had a single Colo'd server fall ill to this vulnerability on Friday
night.  It wasn't a pretty sight to say the least.
Jason

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Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
Thanks for the heads up on this. Unless you have updated your BlackICE
in the last week you are at risk.
http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/166

http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20040318.html

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Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 5:17 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
Warning for anyone using BlackIce.

We were hit by a destructive worm.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11310-2004Mar20.html
Destroyed most of our servers.

We are in the process of recovering from backups.

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Re: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce

2004-03-22 Thread Todd Hunter
Sorry to hear about your troubles.   We keep everything closed and only 
open the port for each specific IP that we need.  We dont use the PIX so I 
am not familiar with them, but security should be at the edge of your 
network in your firewall. If setup properly you should not need the BlackIce.

Todd





At 11:44 AM 3/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Have one.
PIX.
Problem is we had port 4000 open thought is was harmless.



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 5:13 AM
Subject: OT: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
 If you have 16 servers then you need to invest in a real firewall.  You
can
 get a good hardware firewall for $900 - $3000.

 Look at:

 www.sonicwall.com
 www.servgate.com

 The ServGate Edgeforce is a nice unit and can be upgraded to do virus
 scanning.   The also won PC Mag Editors choice award this month.

 Good luck.

 Todd


 At 10:43 AM 3/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 We lost 16 Servers.
 
 
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 From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:50 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
 
 
 We had a single Colo'd server fall ill to this vulnerability on Friday
 night.  It wasn't a pretty sight to say the least.
 
 Jason
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wiegers
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
 
 
 Thanks for the heads up on this. Unless you have updated your BlackICE
 in the last week you are at risk.
 
 http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/166
 
 http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20040318.html
 
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick
 Samarelli
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 5:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
 
 Warning for anyone using BlackIce.
 
 We were hit by a destructive worm.
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11310-2004Mar20.html
 
 Destroyed most of our servers.
 
 We are in the process of recovering from backups.
 
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RE: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce

2004-03-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I was always bothered by those posts that stated I am using a software
firewall on the server itself and that is fine.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Hunter
 Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
 
 If you have 16 servers then you need to invest in a real firewall.  You
 can
 get a good hardware firewall for $900 - $3000.
 
 Look at:
 
 www.sonicwall.com
 www.servgate.com
 
 The ServGate Edgeforce is a nice unit and can be upgraded to do virus
 scanning.   The also won PC Mag Editors choice award this month.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Todd
 
 
 At 10:43 AM 3/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 We lost 16 Servers.
 
 
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 From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:50 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
 
 
 We had a single Colo'd server fall ill to this vulnerability on Friday
 night.  It wasn't a pretty sight to say the least.
 
 Jason
 
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wiegers
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
 
 
 Thanks for the heads up on this. Unless you have updated your BlackICE
 in the last week you are at risk.
 
 http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/166
 
 http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20040318.html
 
 
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 Samarelli
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 5:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
 
 Warning for anyone using BlackIce.
 
 We were hit by a destructive worm.
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11310-2004Mar20.html
 
 Destroyed most of our servers.
 
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Re: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce

2004-03-22 Thread Darin Cox
We use PIX firewalls.  As Todd said, the idea is to block everything by
default, then open up what you specifically need.  Then you just have to
keep up with the critical patches for the services you have open.

As far as I know, no exploit has come out sooner than a month after a patch
for the security hole was released.  That will likely change in the future,
so patch/update management is going to become a much more onerous task than
it already is.  Anything we can do to minimize the security risks up front,
we should.

It may even become necessary to start applying patches automatically in the
future, but this is a dangerous policy at present.

Darin.


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From: Todd Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce


Sorry to hear about your troubles.   We keep everything closed and only
open the port for each specific IP that we need.  We dont use the PIX so I
am not familiar with them, but security should be at the edge of your
network in your firewall. If setup properly you should not need the
BlackIce.


Todd





At 11:44 AM 3/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Have one.
PIX.

Problem is we had port 4000 open thought is was harmless.



- Original Message -
From: Todd Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 5:13 AM
Subject: OT: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce


  If you have 16 servers then you need to invest in a real firewall.  You
can
  get a good hardware firewall for $900 - $3000.
 
  Look at:
 
  www.sonicwall.com
  www.servgate.com
 
  The ServGate Edgeforce is a nice unit and can be upgraded to do virus
  scanning.   The also won PC Mag Editors choice award this month.
 
  Good luck.
 
  Todd
 
 
  At 10:43 AM 3/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
  We lost 16 Servers.
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
  
  
  We had a single Colo'd server fall ill to this vulnerability on Friday
  night.  It wasn't a pretty sight to say the least.
  
  Jason
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wiegers
  Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:51 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
  
  
  Thanks for the heads up on this. Unless you have updated your BlackICE
  in the last week you are at risk.
  
  http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/166
  
  http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20040318.html
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick
  Samarelli
  Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 5:17 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce
  
  Warning for anyone using BlackIce.
  
  We were hit by a destructive worm.
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11310-2004Mar20.html
  
  Destroyed most of our servers.
  
  We are in the process of recovering from backups.
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce

2004-03-21 Thread Mike Wiegers
Thanks for the heads up on this. Unless you have updated your BlackICE in
the last week you are at risk.

http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/166

http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20040318.html


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Warning for anyone using BlackIce.

We were hit by a destructive worm.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11310-2004Mar20.html

Destroyed most of our servers.

We are in the process of recovering from backups.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BlackIce

2004-03-21 Thread Jason
We had a single Colo'd server fall ill to this vulnerability on Friday
night.  It wasn't a pretty sight to say the least.

Jason


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Thanks for the heads up on this. Unless you have updated your BlackICE
in the last week you are at risk.

http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/166

http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20040318.html


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Warning for anyone using BlackIce.

We were hit by a destructive worm.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11310-2004Mar20.html

Destroyed most of our servers.

We are in the process of recovering from backups.

Fred
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