Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Design Concept/Process Question
Hi Jeff, We've taken the stance that no legitimate email should ever be deleted. So, our implementation does not hold or delete any mail. Instead, we simply prepend the title of detected spam with 'SPAM[%tests failed%]' and, depending on the customer's desires, either pass the message on or route to a spam folder. For customers that choose not to have the message routed to a spam folder, we encourage them to set up a simple message rule in their mail client to dump identified spam in a separate folder. That way, we ensure users have the opportunity to receive an review messages, but they don't clog up their inbox. Others might justifiably argue that some spam is offensive enough to warrant deletion, but this is how we've chosen to implement. As a side note, we've also encouraged out customers to use a mail alias for any online subscriptions, forms, etc. We have a simple client app that they can run in the system tray of their desktop to create new email aliases with a note for each subscription. Then, when they start seeing a lot of spam to a certain alias, they can delete it and create another alias for any subscriptions that use it. Most customers set it up as recommended with one alias per subscription or form. It takes a few seconds longer to fill out a form while they type in a description/notes and click a button to generate a new alias, but they love the ability to drastically cut down on spam by protecting their main address. And, they can also take action against a company that didn't follow a stated privacy policy since they know who they gave the alias to. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Design Concept/Process Question Okay, we've been using Declude quite successfully for some time, and we're finally trying to clean up all the original mistakes and misuses and misconfigurations. :) I'm looking for suggestions on how others handle some situations and setup. Currently we use a WORDFILTER to delete messages with specific words in subject or body. Such as that V drug that helps some men. Occasionally, we get a legitimate message deleted due to this. We also delete for high weights as well. I'm thinking of instead of deleting, moving these messages to a folder for temporary storage and using a scheduled task to delete anything more than seven days old. Is this similar to what others are doing or is there a better way I might consider? Thanks, Jeff --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. _ [This E-mail virus scanned by 4C Web] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Design Concept/Process Question
We have a simple client app that they can run in the system tray of their desktop to create new email aliases with a note for each subscription. Care to share the app? It sounds like a really cool idea for my own use (I don't know I want my users going crazy creating aliases.) - Andy --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Design Concept/Process Question
Hello, Jeff, In our setup we use a HOLD weight and a DELETE weight. - global.cfg WEIGHTRANGE-10+ weightrange x x 10 35 WEIGHT-DELETE weight x x 36 0 - - $default$.junkmail WEIGHTRANGE-10+ HOLD WEIGHT-DELETE DELETE - Our HOLD weight is meant to catch as much spam as possible and catch as little legit e-mail as possible. The DELETE weight is meant to be high enough that NO legit e-mail could ever possibly be deleted. All e-mail that is HELD is reviewed a couple of times a day for False Positives using SpamReview. We have a scheduled task which runs once a night and deletes any e-mails from the HOLD directories older than 30 days. Does that help? Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Design Concept/Process Question Okay, we've been using Declude quite successfully for some time, and we're finally trying to clean up all the original mistakes and misuses and misconfigurations. :) I'm looking for suggestions on how others handle some situations and setup. Currently we use a WORDFILTER to delete messages with specific words in subject or body. Such as that V drug that helps some men. Occasionally, we get a legitimate message deleted due to this. We also delete for high weights as well. I'm thinking of instead of deleting, moving these messages to a folder for temporary storage and using a scheduled task to delete anything more than seven days old. Is this similar to what others are doing or is there a better way I might consider? Thanks, Jeff --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Design Concept/Process Question
Hi Andy, Sure, I'll need to package it for you, though, as the client depends on a small amount of server-side ASP.NET/SQL 2000. We have SQL on our mail servers, so it's designed for that configuration. The client only needs internet connectivity. I'm leaving tomorrow for the Holidays, but can package it for you when I get back in early January. I've been considering marketing a few of our tools like this, so I would appreciate feedback. I'll contact you off list when I get back. Darin. - Original Message - From: Andy Ognenoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Design Concept/Process Question We have a simple client app that they can run in the system tray of their desktop to create new email aliases with a note for each subscription. Care to share the app? It sounds like a really cool idea for my own use (I don't know I want my users going crazy creating aliases.) - Andy --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. _ [This E-mail virus scanned by 4C Web] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
