RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Line Modifier: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ?

2005-03-24 Thread Kim Premuda
Thanks Andy, Matt, and Markus for your feedback...I really appreciate your 
comments.





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Line Modifier: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ?

2005-03-23 Thread Andy Schmidt
It's the standard Latin-1 character set.

http://www.utoronto.ca/webdocs/HTMLdocs/NewHTML/iso_table.html

In essence, it means that this line may contain special unicode characters
(e.g., accented characters, Umlaute, etc.).

More often than not it's an indication that it contains some foreign
language word.

However, the word Resume is spelled with accents... I'm not sure if the Euro
currency symbol may even use that code table.

So - be ready for false positives.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Line Modifier: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ?


We have received spam messages in the past whose 'To:', 'From:', 'Subject:',
and 'Sender:' lines contain the character string:

= ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ? (spaces added to avoid filters)

so, we created an external filter (SUBJECT) to detect the string. Now, it
appears, this may be a bad idea, because legitimate messages with this
string are also being caught by the filter (see message header below from
'lightinguniverse.com' as an example).

Can someone verify what this character string means, and whether or not it
is okay for this character string to appear in these lines? Also, is it the
sender's mail client 'JMail 4.3.0 Free Version by Dimac' that is causing
this?

Thanks!


[Sample Header]

   Received: from db2.lightinguniverse.com [216.162.208.53] by
ns3.fastwave.net with ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-8.05) id A81B4AB501A4; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:32:11 -0800
   Received: from www2.lightinguniverse.com ([192.168.1.58]) by
db2.lightinguniverse.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); 
 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:58:41 -0800
   Subject: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q
?LightingUniverse=2Ecom_Order(s):_#280844_status_update=2E?=
   Sender: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q
?LightingUniverse=2Ecom_Order_Fullfillment?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   From: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q
?LightingUniverse=2Ecom_Order_Fullfillment?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:31:12 -0800
   To: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   X-Priority: 3
   X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
   MIME-Version: 1.0
   X-Mailer: JMail 4.3.0 Free Version by Dimac
   Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=--NEXT_BM_C05FF9D6F4B54DD5A4593FAF0577D05A
   Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2005 16:58:41.0843 (UTC)
FILETIME=[910D5830:01C52FC9]
   X-RBL-Warning: SUBJECT: Message failed SUBJECT test (line 26, weight 20)
   X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-HELO: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-HELO test
(line 27, weight 0)
   X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM
test (line 27, weight 0)
   X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS test
(line 37, weight 0)
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Line Modifier: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ?

2005-03-23 Thread Matt
Kim,
JMail by Dimac has had many problems over the years with standards 
compliance, and abnormal behavior.  It's just a poorly coded automated 
mailer (not client software).

You would be generally safe to filter for header elements using this 
encoding if you gave the filter an exclusion for X-Mailer: JMail in 
that filter.  If you find other examples (and you probably won't with 
this particular pattern), you could add them in.

There is great value in creating separate filters for separate types of 
things such as spammy encoding of header elements, that way you can 
pre-qualify the filters with exact patterns known to be in conflict.  
You might want to review how your SUBJECT filter is constructed and 
reconstruct separate filters based on not the element of the message, 
but something more technically exact.

Matt

Kim Premuda wrote:
We have received spam messages in the past whose 'To:', 'From:', 'Subject:', 
and 'Sender:' lines contain the character string:
= ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ? (spaces added to avoid filters)
so, we created an external filter (SUBJECT) to detect the string. Now, it 
appears, this may be a bad idea, because legitimate messages with this string 
are also being caught by the filter (see message header below from 
'lightinguniverse.com' as an example).
Can someone verify what this character string means, and whether or not it is 
okay for this character string to appear in these lines? Also, is it the 
sender's mail client 'JMail 4.3.0 Free Version by Dimac' that is causing this?
Thanks!
[Sample Header]
  Received: from db2.lightinguniverse.com [216.162.208.53] by ns3.fastwave.net with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id A81B4AB501A4; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:32:11 -0800
  Received: from www2.lightinguniverse.com ([192.168.1.58]) by db2.lightinguniverse.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); 
	 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:58:41 -0800
  Subject: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ?LightingUniverse=2Ecom_Order(s):_#280844_status_update=2E?=
  Sender: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ?LightingUniverse=2Ecom_Order_Fullfillment?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ?LightingUniverse=2Ecom_Order_Fullfillment?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:31:12 -0800
  To: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Priority: 3
  X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  X-Mailer: JMail 4.3.0 Free Version by Dimac
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
	boundary=--NEXT_BM_C05FF9D6F4B54DD5A4593FAF0577D05A
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  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2005 16:58:41.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[910D5830:01C52FC9]
  X-RBL-Warning: SUBJECT: Message failed SUBJECT test (line 26, weight 20)
  X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-HELO: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-HELO test (line 27, weight 0)
  X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM test (line 27, weight 0)
  X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS test (line 37, weight 0)
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Line Modifier: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ?

2005-03-23 Thread Markus Gufler
This indicates a Quoted printable encoded string (?Q?)

=?iso-8859-1?B? 

indicates a Base64 encoded string.
Many special characters often used in different languages (German, Italian,
Spanish, French, ...) can cause such an encoding.

Markus



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Premuda
 Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:21 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Line Modifier: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 
 9 - 1 ? Q ?
 
 We have received spam messages in the past whose 'To:', 
 'From:', 'Subject:', and 'Sender:' lines contain the character string:
 
   = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q ? (spaces added to 
 avoid filters)
 
 so, we created an external filter (SUBJECT) to detect the 
 string. Now, it appears, this may be a bad idea, because 
 legitimate messages with this string are also being caught by 
 the filter (see message header below from 
 'lightinguniverse.com' as an example).
 
 Can someone verify what this character string means, and 
 whether or not it is okay for this character string to appear 
 in these lines? Also, is it the sender's mail client 'JMail 
 4.3.0 Free Version by Dimac' that is causing this?
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 [Sample Header]
 
Received: from db2.lightinguniverse.com [216.162.208.53] 
 by ns3.fastwave.net with ESMTP
(SMTPD32-8.05) id A81B4AB501A4; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:32:11 -0800
Received: from www2.lightinguniverse.com ([192.168.1.58]) 
 by db2.lightinguniverse.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); 
Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:58:41 -0800
Subject: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q 
 ?LightingUniverse=2Ecom_Order(s):_#280844_status_update=2E?=
Sender: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q 
 ?LightingUniverse=2Ecom_Order_Fullfillment?= 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q 
 ?LightingUniverse=2Ecom_Order_Fullfillment?= 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:31:12 -0800
To: = ? i s o - 8 8 5 9 - 1 ? Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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