RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS
As other have noted - don't waste your time. One of our class C's is part of a class B that a spammer at some time had a couple of IP blocks in. As their approach is that any collateral damage is acceptable, they blocked the entire class B. As reputable and competent administrators do not use Spews to block email, we have had very few problems with customers mail not getting through. When it does come up we offer to move these clients to another mail server but also explain that it is a misguided guerilla warfare attempt by spews. Almost every time once the client has understood what is going on they have informed the person not receiving the email to contact their host so they are not blocked. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Troy D. Hilton Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:00 AM To: Declude Junkmail Forum Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS Hey All, How does one go about getting their IP address delisted with SPEWS? I understand how I got listed and that problem has been successfully removed. But now is the daunting task of getting delisted. While most blacklists do provide some sort of removal process, SPEWS seems to only tell you you're listed. Any suggestions here? Troy D. Hilton Serveon, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 302-529-8640 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS
Troy, Good luck! In order to get removed they want you to post to the NANAE newsgroup - see Q41/42 in this FAQ - http://www.spews.org/faq.html. From their you will most likely be ridiculed. I am sorry if I do not sound like a big fan of Spews but they are very aggressive and often list a lot of casuality IP's. I have know folks in the casuality boat that had to re-addresses as spews tends to be unwilling to delist anything. Darrell DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting on Declude Junkmail Virus. http://www.invariantsystems.com Troy D. Hilton writes: Hey All, How does one go about getting their IP address delisted with SPEWS? I understand how I got listed and that problem has been successfully removed. But now is the daunting task of getting delisted. While most blacklists do provide some sort of removal process, SPEWS seems to only tell you you're listed. Any suggestions here? Troy D. Hilton Serveon, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 302-529-8640 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS
Title: OT - Removal from SPEWS Hi, one approach could be - "why bother".SPEWS is useful as a reference - but can't be used to block email.I would think that none of the relevant ISPs and most smaller will care of you're listed there or not as the blacklist has a way too high false positive rate. Whoever blocks based on SPEWS will miss much more legitimate mail than just yours that they really can't claim to have'functional' mail server anyway. Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Troy D. HiltonSent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 01:00 PMTo: Declude Junkmail ForumSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS Hey All, How does one go about getting their IP address delisted with SPEWS? I understand how I got listed and that problem has been successfully removed. But now is the daunting task of getting delisted. While most blacklists do provide some sort of removal process, SPEWS seems to only tell you youre listed. Any suggestions here? Troy D. Hilton Serveon, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 302-529-8640
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS
Gee- thanks! (sigh) Why do some folks make things so hard to deal with? I don't deny that for a time my servers were relegated to spamming resources (I hate Trojans and malware) but this issues have since been resolved. Seems to me that a reputable organization should provide the means to clear their name/IP address. Thanks anyway. I may just have to hope that no one really uses SPEWS. Troy D. Hilton Serveon, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 302-529-8640 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:45 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS Troy, Good luck! In order to get removed they want you to post to the NANAE newsgroup - see Q41/42 in this FAQ - http://www.spews.org/faq.html. From their you will most likely be ridiculed. I am sorry if I do not sound like a big fan of Spews but they are very aggressive and often list a lot of casuality IP's. I have know folks in the casuality boat that had to re-addresses as spews tends to be unwilling to delist anything. Darrell DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting on Declude Junkmail Virus. http://www.invariantsystems.com Troy D. Hilton writes: Hey All, How does one go about getting their IP address delisted with SPEWS? I understand how I got listed and that problem has been successfully removed. But now is the daunting task of getting delisted. While most blacklists do provide some sort of removal process, SPEWS seems to only tell you you're listed. Any suggestions here? Troy D. Hilton Serveon, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 302-529-8640 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS
Troy, Last year, I set up with a new provider and the Class C I was given was part of an infamous spam lawsuit many years eariler, but it was still listed on SPEWS. Just as you've been told, I posted to NANAE and was ridiculed, but one kind soul advised me to call my provider ASAP and ask for a different Class C network, which I did and the provider apologized and credited my account one month for the trouble.obviously, I didn't 'need' to be removed after that. Troy, Good luck! In order to get removed they want you to post to the NANAE newsgroup - see Q41/42 in this FAQ - http://www.spews.org/faq.html. From their you will most likely be ridiculed. I am sorry if I do not sound like a big fan of Spews but they are very aggressive and often list a lot of casuality IP's. I have know folks in the casuality boat that had to re-addresses as spews tends to be unwilling to delist anything. Darrell -- -- DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting on Declude Junkmail Virus. http://www.invariantsystems.com Troy D. Hilton writes: Hey All, How does one go about getting their IP address delisted with SPEWS? I understand how I got listed and that problem has been successfully removed. But now is the daunting task of getting delisted. While most blacklists do provide some sort of removal process, SPEWS seems to only tell you you're listed. Any suggestions here? Troy D. Hilton Serveon, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 302-529-8640 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 8/31/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 8/31/2005 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS
We just moved to a new network provider. Never thought to check the new IPs. Never again! Within a few days we started getting calls from customers complaining about delivery failures not to mention being called a spamming ISP. Research found our three class c's were in a large netblock which Spews and spambag listed since the network provider did not respond appropriately. Although we find it incredible anyone would use Spews reality has shown there are some ISPs who don't understand the impact of using Spews. Even an ISP like yahoo.com.au. We will not be coerced or blackmailed into being a David against Goliath situation. These types of idealist seem to have more time and money than we do. As long as we run a clean shop and torture all spammers in public we sleep at night. We finally had to get some clean IPs for our outgoing SMTP servers. It sucks but the bottom line is ... it's all about our customers not about Spews idealism. Michael Jaworski Puget Sound Network, Inc. (206) 217-0400 (800) 599-9485 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS
Thanks anyway. I may just have to hope that no one really uses SPEWS. I know for certain I won't use SPEWS. I also suspect those that do use SPEWS don't weight it too high. However, I have seen some servers block mail at the MTA level using SPEWS - why - I have no idea. Darrell -- invURIBL - Intelligent URI Filtering. Stops 85%+ SPAM with the default configuration. Download a copy today - http://www.invariantsystems.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
